Ron Musgraves

I got a place in Santa Monica this week... Anyone want to meet in West La or Santa monica after the 25th I'm game. Before to busy but will slow down after that date. I also have a bean and Starbucks on opposite corners. Love both

Good Luck with it John, I'll keep supporting the industry for the contractors.

John I retire from bantering about nothing. I'll make this clear, I do not hate the trade association or anyone involved. Some have simply lost my trust to work with them. It's personal between me and them. I'm sorry you feel the way you do John , I deeply sorry you keep affecting our friendship we have had for 11 years. Stop making me out to be a pr-ck because I gracefully turned Linda's plaque down. I appreciate what you and her did. I also wanted to personally thank her. You didn't even want to send me her email. So thanks anyways John but stop already. Get some sleep it's late in new York . If you want to discuss profit non profit I'll be happy to. If you keep wanting to paint this hatred picture I'm done. Ron ********** text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute

John I've been attending the conventions since the Pwna was started again by Daryl and Paul. Attended the first convention since the org was revived and Robert was accepted back in. You see history is just that history. What's this got to do with profit or non profit everything. In a non profit you own a piece of the org. The bod works for its members and there interests. In this org that frankly doesn't happen. Despite some good people involved in this organization there's a bit of confusion to how that really works. Keep on posting John and stop closing threads. Ron ********** text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute

Frankly it's disgusting we are still telling regulators and contractors we pollute instead of we reduce. Power sweepers have made regulation with munis beneficial to there industry. 20 years we are way behind all sectors of the cleaning industry. Part of the problem John is your stand on Pwna this and Pwna that. There's way more out there, but for 20 years they have not worked with much of anyone. Nce has worked With three university's and so many regulators in outreach we lost count. Spreading the word no off property discharge in the most responsible. While national org miss guide this industry into close loop as the end all. Stop talking about how Robert suggest use socks swimming pools and other forms of devices while at the end of the day he tells regulators in his opinion it's except able amounts. That doesn't work!! Ron ********** text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute

The difference is that it's a profit corp not non profit. So control can be maintained. Yes I get it!!! Ron ********** text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute

John will all see in the coming years , you see the larger the association the larger the industry. We all would benefit, I more than anyone stand to gain. The larger the better. You see Pwna gets larger or any trade org grows Nce grows. We are no different than joe walters. We prosper off a larger association. Ron ********** text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute

Great John Ron ********** text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute

Thats great John you sign on a 100 new members , that's great so we are approaching the 400 mark your saying. Because last sept we had 256. Love to see confirmation with Jackie. We realize Robert has done a great job. I'm happy I heard he actually talked about compliment work places. It's getting better the message. The Pwna has been near the 400 mark. The Pwna has certified 1000s over 20 years. Let's hope we all can have a good non profit or profit org in the future. Nce has run several hundred thru training and certs. Many Pwna members along with Pwna training. Nce launched the current enviro program in 2009 at event in Alabama. (FYI) With Robert Nce is not a competitor John , we resurrected this org over the last 18 months. I received and award for it John. Yeah!!!! We are a profit co. We will remain one until we close the doors. We have raised more money for charity in four years than most of these non profits have raised in 20 years. I will donate 100% of any training I do personally to charity. Yeah John I'm bragging, why because at the end of the day my company along with my partner have made a greater impact on this industry than most have in 20 years. This is no disrespect to the founders because they can't do much after being kicked out by others in the industry. This is what's wrong with the non profit. No one has any control and vision is all over the place. The next president will foil the idea from this one and the vicious cycle continues. The Pwna has been kept small and looks like it will remain small, unless it's actually profit and someone forgot to tell you. Ron ********** text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute

They already do believe that. Nothing wrong with it as long as its not taken literal. Ron ********** text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute

The BMPs listed in the EPA menu fall into the following categories: Detention/retention facilities Infiltration practices Filtration practices Vegetative practices Runoff pretreatment practices "Green" site design Experimental practices On-lot treatment That might be the best thing you have linked too Robert, I hope your understanding that section. Outfall is key to complete compliance and how I have operated for nearly 27 years. Green built property's are what we all should be striving for. Pretreatment and hauling a secondary or third measure. I'm happy you attendee storm com. Next question and it's just a simple question. Is the Pwna actually a non profit association? It's a question not and attack. I have never received a tin being able to classify any of my donations or membership I have bought. I reach the IRS limit last year and never got the number. I might have been the largest contributor. Well my credit card says I was!!! Of course I wouldn't know how much money anyone else paid. John before you chime in about me never paying for memberships I might think twice about that statement. My charges have all been on record with bank. My records are meticulous so just and FYI By the way since this is a thread gone off subject note it was not by me. If your going to support a trade association join a local community one of business people against this regulation. No trade association in our current industry can help with local matters. Because these situations involve population demographics and build regulation each city may have different needs. Coastal city's have specific problems. Fleet washing to sidewalk cleaning is a different animal. Our trade association do not even have standards for these simple things much less knowing how to reduce pollution. 20 years of frankly ongoing crap. Contact local authorities and build outreach programs yourself. Many of the engineers do to stormcom and other smaller organization are forming. Soon our industry will have a environmental org working responsibly for the industry. It's efforts will be to make awareness to public about cleaners being able to reduce pollution and minimize discharge to the ms4. In most case eliminate. Profit or non-profit does make a difference , abuse of non profit is world wide. Your actions of how the organization handles and educates the public and members is what will matter. So to answer the original question this really means nothing. Non profits receive benefits from the IRS. Only other non profits care!! Ron ********** text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute

Glad you noticed we bought a wish with the help of the industry. Please give Linda my number 480-522-5227 anyway if you could John. I want to thank her personally. Allison is a great writer, she writes good articles. She has a Brite future in this industry. Ron ********** text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute

John I just wanted to thank her! Ron ********** text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute

Caedy has a message John Ron ********** text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute

You mean wait till Daryl chooses the spot. Daryl has selected the last four years. I sure hope someone else like a committee selects a place. I heard this year was better but the last three years really was horrible. I vote no on a cruise, don't want to be stuck on a ship with Powerwashers. Not my idea of a great time. Beside going on a norway cruise next sept. (taking one of my many wives) maybe all of them. I'm happy you guys had a good time and the babe thing worked out. John please get me Linda's contact info I have something I want to send her. Pls email or text me. Who won the skid and joe walters award? Ron ********** text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute

John nothing could pull me away, my Caedy turned four. I don't think I'll make it next year. It's a cruise. Boats and me don't work well. Glad you guys had a great time!! Ron ********** text me 480-5225227 ???Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Pete From www.sunbritesupply.com Pete wrote the last wood certification back in the day. Ron ********** text me 480-5225227 ???Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Everette really looks great, if I had known he was coming I might have attended. Ron ********** text me 480-5225227 ???Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That's terrible, prayers to her loved ones sent. Ron ********** text me 480-5225227 ???Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Jackie looks great , did she bring the little one John ? Everett looked good also, the event was good stuff I heard. There's always next year!! Tampa I believe a cruise? Ron ********** text me 480-5225227 ???Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'm really surprised John how much tile around pools in Florida. You do a great job cleaning that stuff. Does the grout hold up well? Ron ********** text me 480-5225227 ???Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

With any of this three weeks can change Ron ********** text me 480-5225227 ???Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Who won the Hydrotek ?? Smile Marv Ron ********** text me 480-5225227 ???Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Robert nice job !! Ron ********** text me 480-5225227 ???Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk