Ron Musgraves

John I turned down vice Chair, they accepted I consult for them when needed. Lets explain why i turned this position down. Robert deals with violation of the CWA, I deal with not involving the CWA in my process. Frankly teaching contractors of two national orgs on how to pollute better is not something I'm interested in. I'm also not for educating water authority we are polluters. I can show in my technology how you can prevent pollution's and reduce liabilities for owners. I would not be a good assistant chair for Robert. There's nothing wrong with this stance Robert Takes, it will sell more machines and costs for contractors involved will be greater. In some wash processes its needed, how ever for my business it doesn't exist. I have been educating directly ageist these practices for sidewalk cleaning with great success. I'm working on ordinances for towns and city to have pollution control Ordinances so people are aware we can help reduce not Pollute. Based on this I accepted this consulting Spot after talking with Michael Tessaro in Tampa. What's funny is I brought to all attentions Property Compliance. People Laughed and said that doesn't exist here, well we are finding out the truth each and everyday. Even Robert after ten years of me telling him this has now included this in his packet to water control. What should also be in there is a direction for them to talk with building a Zoning. ( will see if that changes)

I will not expect replies nor will I waste anymore time beating this dead horse. I decided not to attend storm com because these people are getting it. They understand we can be the solution not the pollution. Good luck with water ever your goals are. That's a great question, what are your intentions at storm com? Tell Eric clark hello, heard he's attending with you.

Robert with all respect I need to enlighten you to some facts. Walmart abandon there program you taught. July 2009 it's taken the giant three years for it to die. Robert, I originally invited you to Houston based on a contractor getting fined. You graciously accepted my offer and taped that day. Houston is still a problem today. The facts and why they have changed un-officially is they have run out of money. Second the city attorney saw problems with jurisdiction once it was pointed out. This is why if you watch the video of he last meeting the enforcement says they will get a judge for a warrant. Robert I'm not saying you did nothing . We all know you work hard for these orgs. I'm glad someone's doing it, but how about start by stating the facts. People often say Ron why pick on Robert? National Cleaning expo has been attending and having guest speakers at events all throughout the country for the last four years. we have trained hundreds with actual regulators and educators. Here a question, you talk about how many legislators you have trained. How many water authority people have you put in front of contractor to educate them? As a contractor you would not be producing a video for my org to teach legislators how we violate the ms4. As I have stated many times Robert your way off base. Not to mention you have pushed this threw without orgs approval because of time restraints. So basically you operate as a lone gunman. My suggestion to both these orgs would be to appoint some actually storm water regulators to there enviro team. Robert should not object to this as it would even give him more credibility. Words of advice, stay away from the storm system and these rules and regulations have nothing to do with you. I'll post the region 6 quote later today.

Chris Thanks, all contractors responsibly must have some recovery. Correct most of the time you may never need it. You can comply with simple methods first. Remember knowledge is power, you understand now how to comply. You also will never allow anyone to sell your city or county on these alternate methods. Remember fleets are a different animal. Federal laws state solids are considered hazardous material. You should invest in a portable wash system to protect your livelihood. Bmps for vehicle washing will get stricter. I'm always here to help you and anyone else. Alway have been always will be.

Russ I accepted a spot, not really sure where you get this info. ***** has me on as a consultant. Unless someone didn't tell me that I was not? Roberts strategy is to talk about violation of ms4 , mine is never pollute the ms4 if you can prevent off property discharge. Robert can talk with storm water folks, get them all educated as to how all the contractors who pollute operate. I'm not going to enter ms4 or add contaminates to my process. In some jurisdiction as we learned straight from the toughest city in america the curb and gutter can be argumentative. (Houston) There's nothing wrong with Robert best management practices. Recently Eric spoke to Galveston county. I have not personally spoken with Eric about the results. I felt confident the leaders here after the Houston mess will stay far away from those types of practice. They are educated engineers with experience in storm water control. They clearly understood jurisdiction. I commend Eric for taken on this task, if he needs anything he knows I'm available. Robert sells equipment, first and foremost this has been his life. I'm and environmental contractor, I reduce liabilities for my customers. Most all of my customers as many across this nation have detention and retention systems built into there properties. We all know now this it not a dream Ron made up. Houston confirmed it by admitting the very first garage owner sited never updated the interceptors like others in Houston have. Myself and doug spent a day confirming with city planning and storm control these safisticated systems existed. Compliance for my type of cleaning will continue to stay simple. While others may become more difficult under these guidelines the mobile sidewalk cleaners will continue for years to come safely and responsibly. Contractors who join this elite club that making yourself believe in the riches might want to ask what happened to the person who started the Houston project???? There's a place fit closed loop but as we are finding out it's not the most responsible practice in every situation. Job and sites need to be accessed. Programs and bmps must be determined and followed. Common sense must be applied. Good luck to Robert , ***** & the Pwna. Roberts work hard helping guys who will violate the ms4. I'll continue to stay with in the laws and avoid violating the cwa.

These Folks above helped Raise 5500 buck for Make A Wish Tampa. Give them and all the rest Applause for there help Making Dreams come true for the children Make a Wish Helps. Thanks National Cleaning Expo East and Power Wash Store. Paul & Kory you guys did a wonderful job. I hope in the future we can shoot for more money and by example show people in our industry cares about our communities.

Miss starr took us over the top, thanks to her for sure. Paul kory was saying we will be sponsoring a wish solely?

It's was fun too!

Very nice

Anyone wants to have lunch dinner golf I'm game. Ready and waiting!!!

Been great !!! Get here guys the water is cool

I'm here !!!!!

Is attendance required also ? I might just send my money I feel lucky.

Didn't last, its a cake walk around here!!

Great stuff Joe !!!!

Yeah I agree, the temp on vertical doesn't matter much.

Looks cool

Great, so you must pay to enter,

So is the giveaway included in attending fee?

I text the lead to around three hundred guys in the east, Maybe you will find someone.

If Beth Says IPE, Must be!!!