Sikens,

[Lenny Schrec 14]

Does anyone have a stripper for sikens. I applyed sikens to a deck a few years ago. It now shows its wear. The customer is selling the house and wants to redo the deck but not with sikens. If we cannot remove it we will cover it with solid stain. Any tips.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

HD-80 will work.

We have stripped Sikkens Cetol DEK with it before.

Mix it at 8 oz to the gallon, let it dwell until you are sure it is through the surface, keep it moist with more product. Could take a while, scratch it to see if it is ready.

Beth

[Jarrod 22]

Good luck. Sikkins is pure crap. Bust out a sander and charge up the you know what.

[Lenny Schrec 14]

I just got back from vacation.

I already told the customer that it would most likly not come off and we would cover it up with a solid. He was happy with that. He wants it to l;ook good to sell the house.

Thank for the tip Beth

[Deck Guy 14]

Covering it up is not the best solution, even if the guy is selling the house. When it starts to chip and peel, do you want the new owners telling the neighbors that it was your work?

Worse yet, do you want them to call you to remove a solid stain over a failing Sikkens? Talk about a nighmare. You couldn't pay me enough!

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Stripping Sikkens is not as hard as everyone thinks. Yeah, it takes time but thats why they call it dwell time. I have stripped dozens of decks with the stuff on it and the homeowners were very pleased each time.

Just keep it wet and dwelling for 15-20 minutes per coat till you can scratch thru to wood with the tip of your spray wand concentrating on the vertical surfaces the most particularly under the rail caps.

Rod!~

[MMI Enterprises 289]

Does it fail anymore so as an undercoat below a solid than anything else might?

I'de be inclined to take it off to avoid potential grip failure of the new stuff if it really comes off as easy as Rod says.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

I'de be inclined to take it off to avoid potential grip failure of the new stuff ...

My point exactly. Why put something over something that is about to fail and give the customer more headaches? The new coating will stick well in areas where the wood is exposed and it can have a better hold, but on the areas currently holding a coating that's time is past is only setting up an environment for peeling and flaking which leads to an uneven repair in the future.

Besides, you may get the $$$ now but in the future, the results the customer has to contend with may be a deterrent from using you again.

If one cannot do it right the first time, don't take the job. (my little saying) To many including the customer who ultimately develops the perception it only makes the rest of us look bad and harder to get the job because of someone else who didn't hold up to standard.

Rod!~

[Lenny Schrec 14]

Thanks for the advice, I will strip it instead of covering it. I have a bucket of HD 80.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Just remember to let it dwell, keep it moist and test in the toughest places before you wash and you're good to go... 8 oz to the gallon...

Beth

[Lenny Schrec 14]

Well I got this deck stripped. I had some HD 80 but was afraid it would not be enough so I tried some Remove I got from Sunbright. It did the job. I mixed it twice as strong as recomended, 1 bottle to 2.5 gal. water, and had do strip 1 layer at a time. I knew it only had the base and 1 layer on top of that. I wished I tried the Remove at 1 bottle to 4 or 5 gal of water.

[jbruno 14]

Beth,

When mixing your hd-80 at 8oz. per gallon, what is your method of application? If I were to use an x-jet, what would be my dilution rate? Tom D. gave me some of his to try, so I want to give it a shot next week.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

We use a sprayer like a decker or the like. Easier to control the flow of stripper, and no dilution to worry about. I'll get Rod to post more about it.

Beth

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

We rarely use it at 8oz/gal but like to apply it with a sprayer over an x-jet or m-5 jet due to the 3:1 dilution ratio which makes it too weak to perform. For most our purposes it is mixed up to 6oz/gal in concentration to get the job done and avoid heavy fuzzing. Patience is key next to dwell time and attention to where the stripping is successful vs not complete.

What can I say...it's an art to me.

Rod!~

[jbruno 14]

We rarely use it at 8oz/gal but like to apply it with a sprayer over an x-jet or m-5 jet due to the 3:1 dilution ratio which makes it too weak to perform. For most our purposes it is mixed up to 6oz/gal in concentration to get the job done and avoid heavy fuzzing. Patience is key next to dwell time and attention to where the stripping is successful vs not complete.

What can I say...it's an art to me.

Rod!~

Will a pump up do?? I'm close to selling my company, and I want to be able to keep my buyer on top of all other guys in my area.

And Yes Rod, you and Beth do "artistically beautiful work!"

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

A pump up will work. Have used them many many many times.

Beth :cup:

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

They now serve as a back up in case the sprayer has any problems.

Contingency plan, you got to have one for just about everything in this business.

Rod!~

btw, thanks for the compliment. We'd all be interested in seeing yours and others work too. It's great to see things go from yuck to wow!

[northwestern 14]

If you're selling your company and you'd like to keep on top of the competition in your area for your potential buyer, then you still need a shurflo or cart sprayer setup. A pump up should be for emergencies in case your equipment breaks down, but you still definately need it.

John

[jbruno 14]

If you're selling your company and you'd like to keep on top of the competition in your area for your potential buyer, then you still need a shurflo or cart sprayer setup. A pump up should be for emergencies in case your equipment breaks down, but you still definately need it.

John

I will show him that option, but I'm not going to purchase that right now. I usually use my x-jet for all of my chem applications, but I'm trying a few new strippers (hd-80 and f-18) and I hadn't run into any dillution ratios used w/ the x jet..

[bjp_ne_elec 14]

I've got a job that has Sikkens on redwood. Problem is that the owners son did some unsupervised power washing and ended up doing some gouging of the siding. The groove isn't that deep, but needs to be sanded. I've never worked with Sikkens, so my question is, can I just sand and refinish a section? They called me in to potentially strip to the bare redwood, but I'm not sure what product to use. So is HD 80 what I want to tackle this job?