dperrin 14 Report post Posted March 4, 2008 I have a job to bid tomorrow for a guy who has aluminum siding on his house. Says he has mold that he wants removed. Can I use my typical mix of straight 6% bleach with some house wash downstreamed or does aluminum need special treatment? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 814jeffw 71 Report post Posted March 4, 2008 Oxidation is the main concern, It is usually worse on one or two sides. Having experience and learning how to evaluate the condition and whats going to happen,... is the best way you can deal with oxidized aluminum. You just need to be able to tell the customer what to expect. It's hard to tell anyone what to do with aluminum sided houses as they can all be different without seeing the job in person Jeff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 dperrin 14 Report post Posted March 4, 2008 Looks like the customers main issue is removing the mold not any problem with oxidation. My question is will the bleach do anything to the aluminum. Is this the proper way to clean the alumimum. Might be nice to know how to get any oxidation off while we are talking about it. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 PressurePros 249 Report post Posted March 4, 2008 If it has mold on it, its oxidized. Bleach can cause the pigment/paint to run off leaving very streaky aluminum. You can use a caustic to remove the oxidation but depending upon the condition of the siding you could clean it to bare metal. (that would be bad) Alum siding can be a delicate clean using a weak bleach solution (if you downstream 6% that is very weak) and some car washsoap and be fairly simple to a two step cleaning process starting with acid that you should charge three times as much for. Like Jeff said, you have to know how to evaluate the work. Make sure your insurance prmemiums are paid up just in case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 4000psi 16 Report post Posted March 4, 2008 Wow I didn't know alum was so touchy. I have done a bit of alum with no prob. DSing 6%, with soap. Dane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 dperrin 14 Report post Posted March 4, 2008 If it has mold on it, its oxidized. Bleach can cause the pigment/paint to run off leaving very streaky aluminum. You can use a caustic to remove the oxidation but depending upon the condition of the siding you could clean it to bare metal. (that would be bad)Alum siding can be a delicate clean using a weak bleach solution (if you downstream 6% that is very weak) and some car washsoap and be fairly simple to a two step cleaning process starting with acid that you should charge three times as much for. Like Jeff said, you have to know how to evaluate the work. Make sure your insurance prmemiums are paid up just in case. Well I'll pay my latest premium and go at it gently. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 dperrin 14 Report post Posted March 4, 2008 By the way, If it were to streak using the light bleach and soap. Would the 2 step process correct the issue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 814jeffw 71 Report post Posted March 4, 2008 There isn't always a correction method, especially with this type of thing. Best to avoid the problem if possible. A lot of times the more you go after it the worse it can get. First and foremost is the customer being aware of the possible outcome. Never sugarcoat any predictions when discussing these jobs with with the customer. And if they don't seem to comprehend then move on. And obviously always look at the more oxidized side when making a determination. By the way, we haven't any idea what this job is like so don't look at it as though were trying to make it difficult. The pitfalls here is what we're trying to help you avoid. Smooth aluminum seems to oxidize worse than the type with texture or "woodgrain" look. That has always been my experience anyhow. Jeff Jeff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 jeffex11 121 Report post Posted March 9, 2008 I don't even touch Alum. unless they are told oup front that it may need repainting!!! put the decision on them or you may be doing the job for free. removing the oxidized coating evenly is the trick. it can be done but the older the siding the greater the chance to hit bare metal. I carry sherwin williams A-100 white semi-gloss with me when I wash a vinyl house because the soffit and facia is usually alum. covered . Spot painting is one thing but I know of a company that was sued for washing alum sided house down to bare metal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Rick2 42 Report post Posted March 23, 2008 Aluminum is very difficult, especially the old flat type. Find a hidden spot that gets its share of sunlight then rub your finger along it to see how bad it's fading. Tell the customer you are not responsible for fading. Finally tell them that aluminum siding can be painted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 A and J POWERWASHING 64 Report post Posted March 24, 2008 also use low pressure , low low low Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 rj242 16 Report post Posted March 25, 2008 Tell the customer that the cleaning may streak the paint or even remove it in some places. Get this agreement in writing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 suzuki98 14 Report post Posted April 28, 2008 Well I'll pay my latest premium and go at it gently. Thanks. dperrin how did it go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Rob R. 14 Report post Posted June 11, 2008 (edited) bringing this back from the past.. I have a customer who wants there mobile home done and originally I did not ever want to touch aluminum but may give this a shot DS'ing with very light pressure bleach/dish soap but this thread just reminds me of the high risk.. I will have to take a look and see what the condition is and educate him of the risk at which point he may just get it repainted like he mentioned already.. -rob Edited June 11, 2008 by Rob R. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 MudDuck 20 Report post Posted June 12, 2008 (edited) Citraclean with a touch of 6% for the mold. (1 gal 6%, one bottle of Ultra Dawn for x cling foam,,to a fiver in an x jet) Low pressure "rinse on" with alot of foam, Dwell time is: singing "wish I was in the Land of Dixi" 3 or 4 times. ( mobile homes like that) and then "rinse off" method. No blasting! :lgbow: Edited June 12, 2008 by MudDuck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Rob R. 14 Report post Posted June 14, 2008 well cleaned my first aluminum siding house, just had to be real careful not to streak the siding.. Used outdoor bleach provided by the customer applied by a pump up sprayer let it dwell for a few minutes..turned out ok its getting repainted anyhow this summer customer just wanted ti cleaned up before paint.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I have a job to bid tomorrow for a guy who has aluminum siding on his house. Says he has mold that he wants removed. Can I use my typical mix of straight 6% bleach with some house wash downstreamed or does aluminum need special treatment?
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