Chazz 14 Report post Posted April 9, 2012 Cleaning my first deck Tuesday and I am going to use percarbonate Can I downstream this with good results? X-jet it on? A pump up would take wayyy to long. This is just a cleaning and no staining followed Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 bigchaz 157 Report post Posted April 9, 2012 No and No, wont be strong enough to do anything. The off gassing with the percarb would probably interfere with downstreamer anyway. Do you have a roof pump? Run it through there, quicker than a pump up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 apsurfacesolutions 17 Report post Posted April 9, 2012 No and No, wont be strong enough to do anything. The off gassing with the percarb would probably interfere with downstreamer anyway. Do you have a roof pump? Run it through there, quicker than a pump up. Used my roof pump to apply percarbonate for the first time Friday. Just one of many ideas I picked up at the Albany seminar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted April 9, 2012 We have used an m-5 to apply percarbonate. Problem is strength of product. You have to mix it with warm water and at 10oz/gal to get 3oz/gal on the surface with the 3:1 dilution ratio of the m-5 Unfortunately, you can't mix it any stronger due to the saturation level of water. The rest will precipitate and go to waste. For cleaning purposes, it should be enough to avoid problems with the coating. Rod!~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Guy B 70 Report post Posted April 9, 2012 No and No, wont be strong enough to do anything. The off gassing with the percarb would probably interfere with downstreamer anyway. Do you have a roof pump? Run it through there, quicker than a pump up. +100 Charlie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Chazz 14 Report post Posted April 9, 2012 No I dont own a roof pump and the job is tomorrow I will buy a pump up at home depot and bring along my M-5 xjet as a backup plan If the above mentioned gets me no where is it possible to dip a hard bristled brush in a 5er mixed with percarb And scrub in on the deck? (I wil be prepared better for my next deck for sure) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 plainpainter 217 Report post Posted April 9, 2012 I use to think there was a place for percarbs. Now it seems for every cleaning situation there is a different chem that I can use less of, apply it more rapidly via downstreaming. I can't seem to think of one useful application for percarbs - if I have the stuff, I know how to clean with it - but other than that. Perhaps for eco minded homeowners? Can you wash a house with percarbs, without having to backbrush the entire home? When is percarbs ever the more convenient chem to use? Even if I was going to apply chems direct through a roof pump or something - you can still use other chems at an even lower chem to water ratio for that as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 RPetry 564 Report post Posted April 9, 2012 Chazz, 6 to 8 oz./gal. of percarb on the wood, dependent on how much dirt, mold, mildew is present. I don't think you can get that concentration aside from a direct pump. There is a great use for sodium percarbonate wood cleaners. It's called bare, unstained wood. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 bigchaz 157 Report post Posted April 9, 2012 No I dont own a roof pump and the job is tomorrowI will buy a pump up at home depot and bring along my M-5 xjet as a backup plan If the above mentioned gets me no where is it possible to dip a hard bristled brush in a 5er mixed with percarb And scrub in on the deck? (I wil be prepared better for my next deck for sure) Yes you can use a bucket and scrub brush to put the percarb on as well. I would go with the pump up, unless it's a huge deck it won't be too bad. Try to work in the shade and it won't dry out so quick. When you mix your percarb, do it in a 5 gallon bucket stir well and wait 10-15 minutes for it to settle down before pouring it into the pump up sprayer. If you pour in the sprayer right away it could over pressurize the sprayer and burst. 1 dave mac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Chazz 14 Report post Posted April 10, 2012 Good info thanks for the rescue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted April 10, 2012 If you pour in the sprayer right away it could over pressurize the sprayer and burst. I recommend sprayers with a pressure relief valve for this type of application. Avoids the problem. Rod!~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Chazz 14 Report post Posted April 11, 2012 Would you use the sprayer for a stripper as well Or you would just down stream a stripper. Deciding wether to buy one or not Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 plainpainter 217 Report post Posted April 12, 2012 I've used HD-80 and F-18 at much lower concentrations and got the same cleaning capability as percarbs. I think I've cleaned bare wood with 1 oz of HD-80 per gallon what would take 8 ozs of percarbs to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 bigchaz 157 Report post Posted April 12, 2012 Would you use the sprayer for a stripper as wellOr you would just down stream a stripper. Deciding wether to buy one or not Are you asking about a pump up sprayer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 dave mac 26 Report post Posted April 12, 2012 what is a example of percarbs??? what product?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 KGILL 14 Report post Posted April 12, 2012 Dave, Look up F-10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 dave mac 26 Report post Posted April 12, 2012 thanks would oxiclean do the same thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 KGILL 14 Report post Posted April 12, 2012 I do not know if it would be strong enough. According to my research on the various forums and other places on the internet, I have seen these responses Yes No Yes, but not as well. I have also seen a lot of the wood guys swear by F-10. That is what I plan to use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 dave mac 26 Report post Posted April 12, 2012 keenan, I used oxyclean today on greenblack mold worked pretty good, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 KGILL 14 Report post Posted April 12, 2012 Good to know Dave. How did you mix it, and apply it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 RPetry 564 Report post Posted April 12, 2012 Keenan and Dave, As far as I know, Oxiclean is straight sodium percarbonate. If that is what you want, you can purchase in bulk from the Chemistry Store or local suppliers. Again, as far as I know, Pressure Tek's F-10, ACR's percarb, Sunbright's restore(?) or other distributors for wood products offer surfactants and/or other ingredients that are applicable to cleaning wood. Just mix with warm or even hot water, and apply directly with a pump. The mix does off gas a lot, just use within a 4 hr. period or so. Otherwise the mix will lose cleaning effectiveness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 dave mac 26 Report post Posted April 13, 2012 1 scoop full per gallon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 acegot 14 Report post Posted April 13, 2012 Oxiclean does have surfactant in it, been using it for ten years for cleaning & light stripping, works good @ 8 oz per gallon mixed with warm to mild hot water. Much more cost effective when purchased at Costco. Around $1.25 lb. - 12 lb. tubs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 apsurfacesolutions 17 Report post Posted April 13, 2012 Oxiclean does have surfactant in it, been using it for ten years for cleaning & light stripping, works good @ 8 oz per gallon mixed with warm to mild hot water. Much more cost effective when purchased at Costco. Around $1.25 lb. - 12 lb. tubs. Oxiclean is Sodium percarbonate An adduct of sodium carbonate and hydrogen peroxide Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleaning my first deck Tuesday and I am going to use percarbonate
Can I downstream this with good results?
X-jet it on?
A pump up would take wayyy to long. This is just a cleaning and no staining followed
Thank you
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