steve r 14 Report post Posted December 4, 2005 Just curious how many neutralize before applying sealer.and what do ya use for neutralizing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted December 4, 2005 Steve, Just for future reference, a poll is based on a question, and the choices represent possible answers to the question, to find out the popular opinion. Hope this helps. You might want to redo this thread to get the info you are looking for...unless you are just asking questions....? Not sure. http://www.thegrimescene.com/forums/faq.php?faq=vb_read_and_post#faq_vb_poll_explain Beth p.s. Yes, citralic acid, on all wood types. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Barry M 73 Report post Posted December 4, 2005 I always neutralize before sealing and I use citralic acid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 steve r 14 Report post Posted December 4, 2005 I always neutralize before sealing and I use citralic acid.good answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 R L S 14 Report post Posted December 4, 2005 Always neutralize. I am using Oxalic right now but I have become sensitive to it. When I run out I will Citralic as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 tropical wave 22 Report post Posted December 4, 2005 always....oxalic.....and I always rinse it too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 steve r 14 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 is there a reason why you rinse it off ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Matt in Dallas TX 14 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Yes...oxalic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 steve r 14 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Yes...oxalic.i found not rinsing ;the sealer works into the pores better and brightens more.thats just me.i did an expermit to see what happened .and not rinsing worked better and the ready seal look better and lasted longer.this was a 2.5 yr test on my personel deck.i one half rinse and other no rinse .my deck is 2400 sq ft .its like it pulls the sealer in faster.it is pt 2 yrs young Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 reed 500 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Oxalic and I DON'T rinse either. RS likes the wood to be on the acidic side and results are better with RS by not rinsing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 steve r 14 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Oxalic and I DON'T rinse either. RS likes the wood to be on the acidic side and results are better with RS by not rinsing.i mtself leave oxcilic on cause rs seems to do better.and look better.this is the way i do myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Brian Keating 14 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 Oxalic and never rinse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted December 5, 2005 We always rinse. Wood is acidic by nature... Just my .02... Beth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 PressurePros 248 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 I find that leaving the oxalic un-rinsed dries the wood out and decreases my sqaure foot coverage with sealer. I used to leave it but I like the results better with rinsing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 tropical wave 22 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 I leave it on for a long time before rinsing, I apply then clean up, wrap up, pack up everything then rinse with a garden hose. Maybe I'll try leaving it on, but only if there is no kids or pets living on the property. we'll give it a shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Michael Ahr 14 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 We're using oxalic right now. Leaving it on and then sealing. I might try a rinse now though, how long do I wait before rinsing? Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 10 minutes or so..... it just depends. Beth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 steve r 14 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 We're using oxalic right now. Leaving it on and then sealing. I might try a rinse now though, how long do I wait before rinsing? Mike when acid is applied to the pt.its changes right before your eyes.the wood can only get so bright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted December 6, 2005 For those who do not rinse... Are you aware that Oxalic acid is poisonous and causes sterility? Do you also realize the liability you expose yourselves to by knowingly leaving this chemical exposed for people and pets to come into contact with? I dont look for anyone to answer here, but I thought it would be something to seriously consider. Rod~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 CLASSICPW 14 Report post Posted December 7, 2005 Nobody mentioned rinsing with citralic. What's up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted December 7, 2005 We use it...Barry mentioned it....so did RLS...and so did you just now.. ;) Beth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 bforbis 14 Report post Posted December 7, 2005 We use Oxialic acid as well, but rinse prior to application of stains. Have not really tried not rinsing, but heard that stains may not adhere as well. I see from the threads, others have had the opposite effects though!?!?! What type of stains are you using, brand names? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted December 7, 2005 but rinse prior to application of stains. What are you using? Are you saying you rinse the wood prior to sealing on the same day you apply the sealer or stain. Beth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 steve r 14 Report post Posted December 7, 2005 Wood tux wet and Ready seal and Wooddefender are all good stain and sealers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 bforbis 14 Report post Posted December 7, 2005 It depends on which stain product I use if i rinse just prior to application of stains. Cabot's has an awsome product, SPF that is formulated to apply while wet/damp substrate. Most all others that I am familar with and use must be dry. I have been using hte Cabot's SPF for more than a couple of years and it gives outstanding results. Wolman's Extreme has some that work very well, but has less sheen than customers prefer, the other product I use on a limited basis is SIKKENs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted December 7, 2005 Gee...I was under the impression that Cabot's SPF was new this year - 2005. It's an acrylic, so we don't use it. Thought about it, but decided not to. We don't use Wolman's Extreme anymore.....used to. It was discontinued in the northern states, due to issues with cracking and peeling....again, it's an acrylic and can get messy in northern climates. We like Sikkens' SRD and have also applied the DEK. We also like Cabot's Australian Timber Oil. Our primary product, is Wood Tux. Beth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just curious how many neutralize before applying sealer.and what do ya use for neutralizing.
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