Scott Paul 164 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 Alkyds Are the New Green - Feature Articles - Paint and Coatings Industry According to this article the national regulation will change in 2011 and some of the States that are currently 250 VOC may actually adopt lower regulations then that in 2010. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 bigchaz 157 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 ugh not a change i can believe in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 PressurePros 248 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 I'm just gonna clean vinyl in massive volume.. no big EPA hassles (yet), 5% material cost, no call backs and everybody loves the results. Jeff has the best model in this industry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 RPetry 564 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 Nice find Scott. Terrific. Might as well let wood rot, and replace it. Oh no! What about the spotted owl? Welcome to another gov't asinine nightmare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 RPetry 564 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 ... Jeff has the best model in this industry. Only if you find satisfaction in spraying plastic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 Oh....joy.... :lol: Beth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 RPetry 564 Report post Posted July 28, 2009 Oh....joy.... :lol:Beth Beth, Hah! Real woodies against the rest of the PW world! Love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Scott Paul 164 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 Oh....joy.... :lol:Beth If Maryland goes 100 VOC you guys are going to be out of luck. The only oil based stain on the market that I carry that is 100 VOC compliant is Penofin Verde which is 0 VOC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 James 624 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 In the future we will have home brew formula's for making deck stains. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 RPetry 564 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 In the future we will have home brew formula's for making deck stains. +10. If you are going to keep going in the business, and doing right by your customers and their wood, I'm on board with self made stains. Otherwise, good night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Scott Paul 164 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 +10. If you are going to keep going in the business, and doing right by your customers and their wood, I'm on board with self made stains. Otherwise, good night.Problem will be if you get caught and it is not compliant, you will be facing extremely stiff fines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 PressurePros 248 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 Problem will be if you get caught and it is not compliant, you will be facing extremely stiff fines. Our government should be completely broke by 2010. I am going to make a home brew stain with 50% VOC and sell it out of my basement. Rick will buy it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 bigchaz 157 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 Thank God for Thompsons water seal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 RPetry 564 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 Our government should be completely broke by 2010. I am going to make a home brew stain with 50% VOC and sell it out of my basement. Rick will buy it. Ken, Sounds good, I'll be your first contractor customer. Just don't give me that "works on wet wood" nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 TNRoofCleaner 16 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 In the future we will have home brew formula's for making deck stains. I wonder if they are going to make food coloring in different colors and if you can get it by the bucket? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 YVPW 20 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 I'm gonna use an oil based stain no matter what they say. I'll bet Jim could make one as good as or better than any on the market if he wanted too. I've already been in the thought process about how to get around it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 If Maryland goes 100 VOC you guys are going to be out of luck. The only oil based stain on the market that I carry that is 100 VOC compliant is Penofin Verde which is 0 VOC. Penofin sucks. Beth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 "Lilly and James Potter..killed in a car crash?!? It's a scandal!! an outrage!!" Oh, sorry, but I think most will get the point. VOC content is not all created offensively equal. Rod!~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 plainpainter 217 Report post Posted July 29, 2009 Doesn't A.C. already conform to California's strict standards, thus would be able to meet this standard? On a sidenote - if the government wants to bankrupt the wood business - let 'em. The people are the real government - if they feel passionately about something they can reverse any decision made by the feds. On another sidenote - I said for years on painting boards that trees yield terpenes and isoprenes in quantities that dwarfs what stain application could ever hope to do. Having these compounds has always been a natural phenomena - ever notice the blue haze on hilltops on the horizon? That's just Nature's VOC's being emmitted on hot summer days. You need oxides of nitrogen to complete the equation for creating smog - and that comes from cars. There will never be a reduction in ground level smog as long as the oxides are still being emitted from tailpipes - as there is plenty of natural VOC's to combine with them. I have never understood these VOC laws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Scott Paul 164 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 Doesn't A.C. already conform to California's strict standards, thus would be able to meet this standard? The current AC formula is 250 VOC comliant. Which means that if these changes go in effect 2011, AC will be able to be purchased in all states. The problem lies with the possibility of state or local counties adopting the lower 100 VOC limits. Currently the only place that has 100 VOC limits is 4 counties in Southern California: La County, Riverside County, San Bernardino County, Orange County AC is not compliant in these counties. Jake Clark did inform me last night that they already have a 100 VOC formula ready to go if need be. He has tested it for 2 1/2 years and said that it applied and performed the same as his current formula. In conclusion Jake said, AC is flat out ready to serve you and your valued customers for many decades ahead. Beth, I guess this means you will not need to use Penofin:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 That's good news. Beth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 bigchaz 157 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 If I could kiss Jake Clark I think i would Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alkyds Are the New Green - Feature Articles - Paint and Coatings Industry
According to this article the national regulation will change in 2011 and some of the States that are currently 250 VOC may actually adopt lower regulations then that in 2010.
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