staudend 14 Report post Posted June 6, 2011 How does everybody do this? I'm very picky about the airless FOG - so I spend hours putting plastic up in all directions 10 feet. Anybody have any quicker way to do this without worrying about blowing stain all over the house and siding? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Celeste 341 Report post Posted June 6, 2011 What stain are you atomizing to death? The only thing to keep it from everything is what you're doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 staudend 14 Report post Posted June 6, 2011 I use the best I can get with out ordering it (I hope) in SW Deckscapes toners and semi transparent Oils. I'm doing my next one SW Waterborne Semi at the request of the client. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 staudend 14 Report post Posted June 6, 2011 I just heard about putting a tarp on one side of rails and shooting into the tarp to catch a lot of it, then reversing when doing the other side, then reversing the tip to put volume on the floor (backbrush) without atomizing. Trying to find a timesaver that protects the house still! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 jamesmcc 14 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 you may want to go to a hvlp sprayer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Colorado ProWash 21 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 you may want to go to a hvlp sprayer X2. Airless is only good if you are spraying solids or semi-solid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 staudend 14 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 Doesn't that require an air compressor? What set up to you recommend and what's the cost? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 bigchaz 157 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 I recommend the deckster sprayer from Sunbrite Supply. Very low pressure and not a lot of atomization Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 staudend 14 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 I'm a part timer and can't afford a deckster, and truly try to stay away from decks because of time limitations - I have a Graco Pro X7 I got refurbished for 400$, but looking for a low cost time saver. HVLP would require a good sized portable compressor right? If somebody has a used deckster they want to let go of I'd be more than willing to look into buying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Celeste 341 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 Titan 440i is the airless we use for certain stains. It does need to be a heavy bodied stain for that though. A deckster will pay for itself with one deck if that is the route you want to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 extremeclean 14 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 If you are trying to keep the over spray off of everything except what you are spraying you can go to your local Home Depot and pick up a sheet of luan plywood and cut it into 4x4 sheets and put it up against the house and spray and keep moving the sheet then follow behind using a brush to touch up the small section that the luan covered. The luan plywood is only about $10 a sheet and will save you tons of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 staudend 14 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 I do like that idea for the floor, but when doing rails the overspray drifts wherever the hell it wants to go if spraying from the outside in. Can you use Waterborne stain in a deckster and/or HVLP/Pressure Pot? I don't do many of them, but I am tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 extremeclean 14 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 For the railing to keep the stain from going every where you can take the sheet of plywood and put it on the railing and have it held in place by several clamps or by making a hook design out of some scrap 2x4 boards that will hold it on the railing then spray away and keep moving it a long. I hope that this is what you are asking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 staudend 14 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 Yah exactly. Sorry I can't answer- at the full time gig now. I think with the time limitations I'm going to plastic like crazy for this deck, and try out the 4 X 12 drop cloth method clamped on the railing to catch stain. Not too used to waterborne on decks - should be interesting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Rick2 42 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 When using drop cloths neodymium magnets work great to hold them in place providing you can find a nail or other metal to attach them to. if you get stain on the siding a weak mix of hd80 removes it quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 James 625 Report post Posted June 7, 2011 Do by hand until you get any good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted June 8, 2011 Use pre-taped plastic, available at sherwin-williams for 18.00/roll 8'X72'. Rod!~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 charlie 14 Report post Posted June 8, 2011 By hand hands down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 staudend 14 Report post Posted June 9, 2011 So I did my Deckscapes semi-tran, waterborne deck this morning. I tried the 4X12 drop cloth and clamped it on the railings with plastic hand quick clamp things. It went really smooth on the railings and caught a ton of FOG that would otherwise drift... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Greg R 82 Report post Posted June 10, 2011 Get away from the decks :) SW waterborne is going to end unpleasantly. We're already seeing the stuff peel around here much like the BEHR Acrylic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 staudend 14 Report post Posted June 10, 2011 Yikes! Not what I like to hear about Waterborne, but that's what he requested. I've been spraying and back brushing for the last 8 years or so, just looking for an easy way to ease my paranoia about getting stain on people's houses. The tarp on railing method worked great, although I still plastic'd the crap out of everything. I wish there was a good source of readyseal here in MO, not being full time I don't want to stock anything or pay for shipping, do the best that's convenient in SW stains (oil from now on) I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Greg R 82 Report post Posted June 11, 2011 Problem is when it fails (and it will) he'll assume you did a poor job and that caused the failure. I guarantee thats what Sherwin Williams will blame it on (poor prep, underapplied, overapplied, etc...). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted June 11, 2011 What Greg said. People are naive about products being on the shelves and thinking that "they must be good if they are for sale" and therefor the contractor that applied them did something wrong. We have all seen good and bad products in some way and know better. It is just that the customer doesn't. Rod!~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
How does everybody do this? I'm very picky about the airless FOG - so I spend hours putting plastic up in all directions 10 feet. Anybody have any quicker way to do this without worrying about blowing stain all over the house and siding?
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