2014 Events-- mark your calendars

[John T 744]

EClean is keeping track of the 2014 event that are worth attending. Mark your calendars for next year and also stay connected with this Indsutry through eClean mag.

http://www.ecleanmag.com/events/?utm...m_medium=email

[John T 744]

Thanks Beth.

For any people who have it in their heart to volunteer for any industry org's and to be potentially a BOD one day, all you have to look at is the way Beth responds to post here. She's smart, level headed and always post with the intention to give out excellent advice everytime.

It's reasons like this that Beth became an executive PWNA Bod who would've been most likely the first industry President if she wasn't over inundated back then running multiple businesses such as her contractor business,selling industry products and running the most professional industry bulletin board all these years.... Oh and let's not leave out her raising a family to.

As it stands, Beth may have been the highest ranked female BOD in the Powerwashing Industry when she attained the position of the PWNA Secretary. At that time the PWNA had around 400 real memberships which to this day still is their peek.

[Guy B 70]

NO one is going to put texts from anyone else's conversations on this forum. I will NOT allow it. This is not that other forum where people **** all over one another. There is nothing wrong with the questions John T has raised. NOTHING. I followed the antics of the Vegas event. It is a shame that people who are supposed to be mature adults had to resort to the things they did to ruin something for someone else. Well, guess what. the members of this forum who have questions about this upcoming event in Maryland have every right to inquire. Guy, you are speaking there, correct? You say you have no idea what is going on with other speakers? Well, that is possible. Many of these events are like that, with volunteers going and offering their time, and sharing their knowledge. But volunteers get questioned all the time. You should know this already, from your prior time on the BOD. Of course you could have taken the high road and asked what that individual was speaking about, and then shared it.

 

 

Beth

 

You know Beth, I expected as much. I never said I would post the text, I asked John if he would like me to post it. If someone sends me a text message they shouldn't be affraid of the truth of the text they sent me, nor should you.

 

You talk about the "Antics" of the Vegas event, of the proof that's been shown you still don't see the damage that was done there??? You agree with what Robert & Jim did under the smoke and miriors of the event? That's OK with you?

 

I have no problem answering questions if I have the answers to them, then this gets turned around on the ***** and I get called down for hijacking.....I hijacked nothing...I was answering questions and then BS with membership and levels of Membership that have nothing to do with this thread started coming at me....but nothing was said...and that's OK?

 

It's OK Beth it's a one sided deal that I seem to have been drawn into......without the whole picture being taken into account or being acknowledged.

 

Have A Great Day!

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[John T 744]

Guy stop it already!!

You clearly hijacked this thread and now your threatening to show my private text. Frankly I don't care what you do with my private text. To me there private, to you it's everyone else's business which someone obviously taught you that and it's wrong.

Just keep that nonsense off of here and take your threats to where they belong on that drama bb. PWRA bb doesn't allow that either so at least respect the owners of these sites wishes.

As for who's right and who's wrong about the Vegas event you weren't apart of that either except for being a parrot to the ones who are telling you tall tales.

You have issues about it then take it up with me via phone call, text, email, YouTube or whatever floats your boat but not on these sites.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Edited November 4, 2013 by John T

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Hey, maybe I'll stop by that free event and see what it's all about.

 

Beth

[John T 744]

I thought about that to Beth until I was told by a mutual friend that whoever appears there will be counted as a "free" member to that org. They will use your name as part of there membership totals.

Since I do not want any affiliations with them free or otherwise at this time with their current leadership in place its not worth it for me to take that risk.

If you have any questions about this you may want to call Billy Booze to get some clarification.

Besides the above it looks like Jay is putting together a good event.

Edited November 4, 2013 by John T

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

I thought about that to Beth until I was told by a mutual friend that whoever appears there will be counted as a "free" member to that org. They will use your name as part of there membership totals.

Since I do not want any affiliations with them free or otherwise at this time with their current leadership in place its not worth it for me to take that risk.

If you have any questions about this you may want to call Billy Booze to get some clarification.

Besides the above it looks like Jay is putting together a good event.

 

I do not believe they can use either your name, or your likeness without written consent. In fact, I know they can't.  So if you want to go to an open, free event, you have every right to go. And if the event is not specifically an org event your name and any photos of you, should be of no concern.

 

Beth

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Beth ,you going to this round table ?

 

If I do, it will be more to catch up with friends than anything else. Let me know if you head down for it.  :-)

 

Beth

[Guy B 70]

Rob, Thanks for the call, dinner invite is still open. Hope to see you there too Beth, last time we saw each other was Greensboro I believe.

[cleanhoods 43]

Guy you mentioned they actually come here in NC by any chance would you know if they will be coming to our area again. I AM CURIOUS WHAT THESE "EVENTS" are about.

Marko

[cleanhoods 43]

Guy (or whoever can answer )you mentioned they actually come here in NC by any chance would you know if they will be coming to our area again. I AM CURIOUS WHAT THESE "EVENTS" are about.

Marko

[John T 744]

And if the event is not specifically an org event your name and any photos of you, should be of no concern.

 

Beth

Then what if it is an org event? Do they have the right to link you to it? Rob would post here but he's taking care of some business that needs to be taken care of but basically what happened to Rob Last year was that he was told by Billy Booze that all attendees are now considered org members. This pissed a few guys off as you can imagined. Then the hammer was dropped on Rob. They asked him to speek to the crowd because a certain no show didn't make it so Rob did this to help out Jay. For the next bunch of weeks maybe even months the president of that org told anyone who would listened that Rob spoke for him since he couldn't make it. He said Rob represented him. If that isn't underhanded then I don't know what is.

Lastly this event is being ran by the pres. who's flying in his crew to speak about Enviro in Robs home state(they accused us of dong this in the enviro's home state) and there's org. stuff everywhere. Billy Booze a BOD is there to recruit.

If this isn't an org event then how do they explain their President running the show, his enviro guy preaching his beliefs and his main BOD guy recruiting members there? It sure looks like an org show and if they would just be honest about it then all is OK and people will know exactly what their getting themselves into.

Just be aware Beth when your name gets linked in thru their org by their President afterwords you can't say you weren't told so. If you don't believe this then all you have to do is call Rob and let him tell you how wrong it was for them to say he's now a "free" org member that counts on there org total list and also how their Pres. not only posted that rob represented him but how he text many people just that.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

If I am not there participating, they can't use my name and say I was. It's that simple. And really, who really cares about it? It's a pressure washing org, and in my opinion not a good one. There are so many better ways to promote and grow a business. I do not regret one bit not renewing, and until the current President is gone I will not consider joining. It is JUST...THAT...SIMPLE.

 

I probably won't go unless my friends are going, then I might swing up to say hi but not to attend.

 

Beth

[Guy B 70]

Then what if it is an org event?

Lastly this event is being ran by the pres. who's flying in his crew to speak about Enviro in Robs home state(they accused us of dong this in the enviro's home state) and there's org. stuff everywhere. Billy Booze a BOD is there to recruit.

 

 

What If...Maybe...I Think....solid info there John.

 

Jay & Bill are putting this on...for the 4th year (Unlike the Vegas event). They are area Contractors (Unlike the Vegas event)...area Contractors will be there (Unlike the Vegas event)... No outsiders are emailing local Enviro. Regulators telling them their BMPs may be illegal and pandering them to be a consultant (Unlike The Vegas event)...Jay & Bill actually run their businesses in the area the event is being held in..(Unlike The Vegas Event) The Event is Free..(Unlike the Vegas event) No Committees decide whos invited and whos not...(Unlike the Vegas event) This isn't an Org. event..(Unlike The Vegas event) This event isn't being held to get back at an area Contractor or his Son...(Unlike the Vegas event).... Because of this event or the 2 Gentlemen hosting it, State & Local Enviro. Regulators will not be reviewing pressure washing BMPs for 2014 with the very real possibility of making them stricter with more regulation...(Unlike The Vegas event).

 

So you see John...comparing the event you were involved in and had full knowledge of and the one in Md. is quite...well...Insane.....Just Saying.

[Guy B 70]

Guy you mentioned they actually come here in NC by any chance would you know if they will be coming to our area again. I AM CURIOUS WHAT THESE "EVENTS" are about.

Marko

 

Marko,

 

        The last event that was held in the Carolinas (that I can remember) was in Myrtle Beach a couple of years ago by Celeste (PWNC). Just like "Most" events they are for the purpose of business building, knowledge, and networking.

 

We have attened 5 events in the Carolinas over the last 7 years.

[John T 744]

Once again Guy since you still can't recall you moderated the drama bb for a year or even was a mod there, you weren't involved in the Vegas event but your just parroting the words of your bosses in your org and you still say you don't know what your enviro boss is going to do in MD where he doesnt belong shows pretty much once again.......your clueless.

We already know it's your org sponsored event. My guess is your boss will probably MC as well. What your Enviro boss is doing there is an easy one. He's going to promote equipment In his enviro speech and he's going to try and sell to the people in the crowd your org's potential BMP's.

Your MD bod boss is going to try and recruit members and probably like last year count everyone that walks thru the door as "Free" org members so they can mislead once again about their true membership(#1 reason I'm not going so you can't use my name or company falsely to count us as a member).

So what we have here Guy:

#1 You obviousy don't know about the Vegas event so you just Parrot your leaders deflammatory remarks.

#2 You admitted you have no idea what your enviro boss is going to talk about which probably means you can't remember.

#3 You still can't recal that you moderated the drama bb for a year with your stance of you didn't even know your were a mod yet you were always in the back rooms crying up a storm about one thing or another.

Your hurting your org once again because you just can't seem to help yourself to not respond because all your doing is inflaming others such as myself. You were told by your bosses before you resigned to stop doing this because you help know one when you play cop on the net.

Stick to what you know and stop parroting things you know nothing about.

[Guy B 70]

Once again Guy since you still can't recall you moderated the drama bb for a year or even was a mod there, you weren't involved in the Vegas event but your just parroting the words of your bosses in your org and you still say you don't know what your enviro boss is going to do in MD where he doesnt belong shows pretty much once again.......your clueless.

We already know it's your org sponsored event. My guess is your boss will probably MC as well. What your Enviro boss is doing there is an easy one. He's going to promote equipment In his enviro speech and he's going to try and sell to the people in the crowd your org's potential BMP's.

Your MD bod boss is going to try and recruit members and probably like last year count everyone that walks thru the door as "Free" org members so they can mislead once again about their true membership(#1 reason I'm not going so you can't use my name or company falsely to count us as a member).

So what we have here Guy:

#1 You obviousy don't know about the Vegas event so you just Parrot your leaders deflammatory remarks.

#2 You admitted you have no idea what your enviro boss is going to talk about which probably means you can't remember.

#3 You still can't recal that you moderated the drama bb for a year with your stance of you didn't even know your were a mod yet you were always in the back rooms crying up a storm about one thing or another.

Your hurting your org once again because you just can't seem to help yourself to not respond because all your doing is inflaming others such as myself. You were told by your bosses before you resigned to stop doing this because you help know one when you play cop on the net.

Stick to what you know and stop parroting things you know nothing about.

 

And once again John, what does not remembering being a mod on a board 7 yrs ago got anything to do with anything? Just more smoke & miriors from the best.

 

Again your childish baiting of reffering to someone as my Boss or Leader shows your level of intelligence, or lack there of.

 

What part of my post was "Untrue"? I could provide emails, PM's, & texts to prove the truth.....but that's not allowed here.

 

It's OK John, continue your foolishness, it's what you're best at......What Part Isn't True?

 

[John T 744]

 

It's OK John, continue your foolishness, it's what you're best at......What Part Isn't True?

All of it because your taking everything out of context.

Threatening me with your going to show people private text, emails or maybe your even going to say you recorded our private conversations, will never work.

If your so inclined to stoop to that classless level then just do it...or shut up already!

[Guy B 70]

All of it because your taking everything out of context.

Threatening me with your going to show people private text, emails or maybe your even going to say you recorded our private conversations, will never work.

If your so inclined to stoop to that classless level then just do it...or shut up already!

 

Nothing is being taken out of context John, nothing.

 

I threatened nothing....Nothing, I made a statement, a statement you're afraid of because you know I'm telling the truth. Beth has made it clear emails, PMs, text will not be allowed here, and I will respect her wishes, there is no choice in the matter.

 

How is it classless to prove the truth? Why is the truth "Classless"?......Never mind almost forgot you were in the conversation.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

John stop baiting him telling him to do it or shut up. Guy is trying to respect our forum's wishes NOT to have messages from emails and texts posted here. Everyone should respect it and just settle down already.

 

Sheesh.

 

Beth

[John T 744]

Not afraid of whatever ur suggesting Guy. U got questions or allegations feel free to call me. Besides that im not an advocate to releasing private messages anywhere..... but.... 4 u if it makes u feel better do whatever u feel the need to do but not here on TGS--- That is all I ask.

[Guy B 70]

No worries Beth.

 

John I don't advocate posting PMs, emails, or text to hurt or defame a person(s) that's just not cool at all......but if it's to prove lie(s) that someone is spewing then I feel all bets are off.

 

Lets just say I see you posting incorrect information on a forum, for arguments sake and completely Hypothetical of course (Lol) lets call them Lies...Now I have proof these are lies through emails, texts, & Pms that I have in my possession either from or by you but I am unable to prove myself because of certain forum rules against me posting them.....My hands are completely tied and you (Hypothetically of course Lol) are free to continue posting lie upon lie and can bait me or question my character at will without the worry of the truth being known.

 

Of course you always need to get the "Last Word In" but this is my last post on this particular subject.....So have at it.

 

Have A Great Evening Everyone!


 

[John T 744]

Guy-I never reported incorrect anything on the net. There is no hypothetical anything. My integrity is intact as I know Beth's is here as well. You feel the need to vindicate yourself then do it on that "other" bb. TGS is and has always been a top notch professional Industry bulletin board since the day it started in 03.

On a more important note to me is my baby girl collapsed in school today and was just transported from one hospital to a specialist hospital which is where I am now @1 am so none of this no longer matters to me.

Have fun with your class at NOVA.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

John,

Keep me posted about her. I would be unglued. I'll be praying for you all.

Beth

[John T 744]

John,

Keep me posted about her. I would be unglued. I'll be praying for you all.

Beth

Thanks Beth. My daughter got released today at noon and the doctors said she can go to dance today as well which is what she did. She had a 2pm Master class with a "dancing with the stars" choreographer which is all she talked about all week and she made it there and dance her tail off(She's a huge fan of the movie Billy Elliott.)

My daughter has a health issue to deal with now for a few yrs(hopefully not a lifetime) but she is extremely determined to overcome.... I love my little girl so much and I can't put into words of how proud I am of her not to let this stop her..

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

I am so glad she got to dance, and that she is on the mend.

 

Beth