Jeff 232 Report post Posted February 27, 2006 I use Steve Rowletts RPC 2000 concrete cleaner for parking garages. its good product. I get it in 55 gallon kits, its 4 parts 1 powder & 3 liquid 5's It cost $269, plus $20 Hazmat fee and its costing $106 for shipping. I'm looking for a product that is just as good or better that will cost me less money, the shipping cost is alot. Is there products out there that are just powders that you mix with water, I figure less shipping that way. What do you all use for garages, oil etc. I xjet it Any help appreciated, trying to work on the bottom line Thanks JL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R L S 14 Report post Posted February 27, 2006 Jeff, I use R-109 from delco on concrete and it works real well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLD 14 Report post Posted February 27, 2006 I use SunBrites conc cleaner. We need to get together and do a face-off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarrod 22 Report post Posted February 27, 2006 Call E-spec - 800-346-4876 ask for Power Stroke. It's a powder and it works well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bforbis 14 Report post Posted February 27, 2006 Jeff, I have used the Espec Power stroke for about 2 years and it does work well for concrete cleaning and you can adjust the strength, since its a powder. I usually pretreat heavy oil spots with a liquid sodium hydrox degreaser from a local distributor and I have also added to it with the epsec additive oil buster. The oil buster seems to help emulsify the oils, it not that expensive an additive, but not truely sure it has made that significant an impact on oil spots. I have also tried F18 MAX and it seem to do a nice job on general concrete, but did not seem to impact the heavy grease and oils I see around restaurants, but have not used a lot of this product. In addition, I have tried HD80, SH beads and some other brands that I just gave up on, b/c of cost, lack of cleaning etc. I did notice that when I changed from PS to the F18 MAX or other SH based powders, I think the surface was a little whiter than usual. I am not sure if the change in chem was the result. I had felt,thought whatever,, that after using PS for sometime the surface was yellowing.....but not positive. Jarrod, Since you use PS could you add any observations from your point of view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VanDiesel99 14 Report post Posted February 27, 2006 I also was looking for a cheaper alternative, so I went with caustid liquid(25%), downstreaming it. It worked decent but needed to be stronger for restaurant grease that I do frequently. I am going to get 50% caustic liquid next time and see how that does. Anybody know of anything that can be added to the mix for increasing its effectiveness? Caustic liquid is very cheap(sodium hydrox) when bought raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCPC 26 Report post Posted February 27, 2006 I don't do much commercial work that requires heavy grease removal, but on the few restaurnants that I do clean I use Pressuretek's F-18 and have had excellent results and that's with using cold water, so I'm sure with the hot it would be quite bit easier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bforbis 14 Report post Posted February 27, 2006 After re-reading my previous post, it did not come out the way I intended. The overall results I had with both HD80 and F18 MAX were good, as both seemed to brighten the concrete more than what i was normally using. I will definitly revisit F18 MAX as I would prefer to carry powder based chems, rather than liquid. There are a couple of factors to consider when trying to analyze cost and effectiveness of chemicals that most seem to take for given. That is concentration of the chemical, dwell time, hot or cold cleaning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff 232 Report post Posted March 11, 2006 Does anyone have a website for the F18 & HD product Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy M 14 Report post Posted March 11, 2006 F-18 comes from www.pressuretek.com I think and HD-80 is wood stripper from extreme solutions that can be bought from www.sunbritesupply.com Ihave used power stroke and it worked great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Musgraves 240 Report post Posted March 11, 2006 Jeff, give me a call. Or text me your number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flimmy 14 Report post Posted March 11, 2006 Jeff , I've used the F-18 MAX on some drivthrus and it works great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve r 14 Report post Posted March 11, 2006 concrete cleaner from sunbrite .Id put it against anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xstream Clean 14 Report post Posted March 11, 2006 We do a lot of gas stations and have been using F18 max. It works well as long as you dilute it right and let it dwell properly. We apply it with a Femco and use hot water with our surface cleaners. It doesn't remove the heavy oil stains, but does a good job lightening them up. We've also tried Super Flash from Zep. It's cheaper and comes in a powder form. It has worked great on residential concrete, but sub-par on commercial applications. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Able Hands 14 Report post Posted March 12, 2006 What the H-E-double-hockey-sticks is a FEMCO? Been doing an awful lot of reading but haven't seen that one yet. Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirtgun 122 Report post Posted March 12, 2006 What the H-E-double-hockey-sticks is a FEMCO?Been doing an awful lot of reading but haven't seen that one yet. Matt It's an electric pump similar to a shur-flo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
