Virtual Election '08

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

I thought it would be fun to hold a virtual election here on TGS. Cast your vote anywhere between now and Nov 4th. After that, the poll will close and we will see if out results match the Nation or not.

Make your vote count!

Beth

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Richard - Fill in your signature. Thanks.

Beth

[RJTravel 32]

Sen. Ted Kennedy, the guy who over 35 years has voted to ban all semi-autos, to make it a federal crime to purchase more than 2 handguns in a year, proposed 21-day waiting periods on all gun purchases, made several attempts to ban centerfire hunting ammunition, fought tooth and nail to protect the gun-ban lobby's schemes to bankrupt the American firearms industry, and who was one of only 16 senators to vote against Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act (which was the NRA's answer to New Orleans gun-grabbers actions after Hurricane Katrina), endorsed as candidate for president, B. Hussein Obama - a guy who, until the puppet of political impetus, was unsuccessful in biz and earned less than a whopper-flopper at B/K.

The junior senator from Illinois indicated that he is also a big fan of anti-gun Kennedy, "I don't think there's anybody who understands the possibilities of government more than Ted Kennedy...nobody's better than him...he is at the heart and soul of the Democratic Party". (Jan 28)

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Sen. Ted Kennedy, the guy who over 35 years has voted to ban all semi-autos, to make it a federal crime to purchase more than 2 handguns in a year, proposed 21-day waiting periods on all gun purchases, made several attempts to ban centerfire hunting ammunition, fought tooth and nail to protect the gun-ban lobby's schemes to bankrupt the American firearms industry, and who was one of only 16 senators to vote against Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act (which was the NRA's answer to New Orleans gun-grabbers actions after Hurricane Katrina), endorsed as candidate for president, B. Hussein Obama - a guy who, until the puppet of political impetus, was unsuccessful in biz and earned less than a whopper-flopper at B/K.

The junior senator from Illinois indicated that he is also a big fan of anti-gun Kennedy, "I don't think there's anybody who understands the possibilities of government more than Ted Kennedy...nobody's better than him...he is at the heart and soul of the Democratic Party". (Jan 28)

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Beth

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When asked to revel his records, McCain immediately released his birth records and all school transcripts. Ask yourself why Obama refuses to release any of these records. We know he received no honors at either Occidental or Columbia - certain it is his GPA was between 2.0 and 3.2 - he is hardly the sharpest nail in the bucket. I have one granddaughter who earned 2 (yes two) fully-earned 4-year B.A. degrees by age 20 - both *** laude! Given that she is substantially smarter than Obama, does that mean she should hide her true age and run for President? Heaven forbid! If for no other reason we cannot allow Obama in - impeachment proceedings may soon follow given the ongoing lawsuit over his nationality. I will assume everyone knows that his mother renounced her US citizenship. Foreign students are given essentially free education - is it possible his applications and transcripts are locked for a reason? This is a question that must be answered before anyone can intelligently vote. If the Dems do win it could take unprecedeted, and expensive, action to replace Obama with Biden, however in my estimation by far the better choice.

Lee

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Yeah you are only allowed to ignore the rules until you disagree with beth and rod, then the rules become very important

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Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

This speaks VOLUMES...

Beth

Didn't liberals hate Colin Powell a couple years ago? Now that he's on the Nobama bandwagon, you guys are all for him. How funny...

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[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Didn't liberals hate Colin Powell a couple years ago? Now that he's on the Nobama bandwagon, you guys are all for him. How funny...

I have always respected General Colin Powell.

Beth

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Always had the highest respect for the man.

Rod!~

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When asked to revel his records, McCain immediately released his birth records and all school transcripts. Ask yourself why Obama refuses to release any of these records. We know he received no honors at either Occidental or Columbia - certain it is his GPA was between 2.0 and 3.2 - he is hardly the sharpest nail in the bucket. I have one granddaughter who earned 2 (yes two) fully-earned 4-year B.A. degrees by age 20 - both *** laude! Given that she is substantially smarter than Obama, does that mean she should hide her true age and run for President? Heaven forbid! ....Lee

One can be an orphaned, handicapped, political science major from Somalia, but unless you are gifted intellectually, you are not going to be admitted into Harvard Law School. Once there, Obama rose among peers to become the President of the Harvard Law Review, the most prestigious student position available at Harvard, and arguably, of any law school in this country. Many in that position go on to clerk for a Supreme Court justice.

From there, Obama was offered a faculty position at the University of Chicago Law School, a highly respected institution that is somewhat right leaning. He taught for 12 years, including courses in Constitutional Law.

One can question and argue Obama's policies and politics. But to question his intellectual capability, in light of his accomplishments and resume', is just plain off the mark.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

One can be an orphaned, handicapped, political science major from Somalia, but unless you are gifted intellectually, you are not going to be admitted into Harvard Law School. Once there, Obama rose among peers to become the President of the Harvard Law Review, the most prestigious student position available at Harvard, and arguably, of any law school in this country. Many in that position go on to clerk for a Supreme Court justice.

From there, Obama was offered a faculty position at the University of Chicago Law School, a highly respected institution that is somewhat right leaning. He taught for 12 years, including courses in Constitutional Law.

One can question and argue Obama's policies and politics. But to question his intellectual capability, in light of his accomplishments and resume', is just plain off the mark.

What he said! ;)

Beth

[Jeff 232]

Didn't liberals hate Colin Powell a couple years ago? Now that he's on the Nobama bandwagon, you guys are all for him. How funny...

Why would liberals hate Colin Powell? I have liked him since the 1st Gulf war. He has always been one of the straight talking guys who cares about the troops more than anything. I guess thats why Bush wanted him out of his admin when he was asking for more troops. Bush dumped him because he spoke up

Some blamed him for his speach at the UN.

Colin has always had support from both sides. Now that he's for Nobama, I guess all you right wingers hate him too. Hey Maybe Colins a Muslim too, Ha Ha Ha. Time for the right wingers to start trashing him, you guys do that stuff well if someone doesnt agree with the right wing views

Hell I wish Powell ran for president back in 2000, He's a good man and I would of said that even if he backed McCain

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Ken Adelman Backing Obama

By Michael D. Shear

First Colin Powell. Now Ken Adelman?

Adelman is the latest Republican foreign-policy heavyweight to endorse Sen. Barack Obama, telling the New Yorker's George Packer that he intends to vote for the Democrat in two weeks.

"When the economic crisis broke, I found John McCain bouncing all over the place. In those first few crisis days, he was impetuous, inconsistent, and imprudent; ending up just plain weird," Adelman wrote, according to Packer. "Having worked with Ronald Reagan for seven years, and been with him in his critical three summits with Gorbachev, I've concluded that that's no way a president can act under pressure."

Adelman was a key part of George Bush's defense agency and has held senior policy positions under Presidents Reagan, Ford and even Nixon. He's a staunch conservative, though he has broken with Vice President **** Cheney and former Defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld over the handling of the Iraq war.

But he told Packer that Sen. John McCain's pick of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his running mate was the last straw.

"That decision showed appalling lack of judgment," he wrote in an e-mail, according to Packer. "Not only is Sarah Palin not close to being acceptable in high office -- I would not have hired her for even a mid-level post in the arms-control agency. But that selection

contradicted McCain's main two, and best two, themes for his campaign -- Country First, and experience counts. Neither can he credibly claim, post-Palin pick."

In today's Post-ABC tracking poll, Obama is winning 22 percent of conservatives. That's his best showing yet among these voters, and if the percent holds on Election Day, it would be higher than conservative support for any Democratic nominee since 1980.

Obama also wins 12 percent support among Republicans in the tracking poll -- exactly double Kerry's 2004 Election Day haul.

Ken Adelman Backing Obama | The Trail | washingtonpost.com

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One can be an orphaned, handicapped, political science major from Somalia, but unless you are gifted intellectually, you are not going to be admitted into Harvard Law School. Once there, Obama rose among peers to become the President of the Harvard Law Review, the most prestigious student position available at Harvard, and arguably, of any law school in this country. Many in that position go on to clerk for a Supreme Court justice.

From there, Obama was offered a faculty position at the University of Chicago Law School, a highly respected institution that is somewhat right leaning. He taught for 12 years, including courses in Constitutional Law.

One can question and argue Obama's policies and politics. But to question his intellectual capability, in light of his accomplishments and resume', is just plain off the mark.

cough cough...affirmative action...cough cough....token!

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Why would liberals hate Colin Powell? I have liked him since the 1st Gulf war. He has always been one of the straight talking guys who cares about the troops more than anything. I guess thats why Bush wanted him out of his admin when he was asking for more troops. Bush dumped him because he spoke up

Some blamed him for his speach at the UN.

Colin has always had support from both sides. Now that he's for Nobama, I guess all you right wingers hate him too. Hey Maybe Colins a Muslim too, Ha Ha Ha. Time for the right wingers to start trashing him, you guys do that stuff well if someone doesnt agree with the right wing views

Hell I wish Powell ran for president back in 2000, He's a good man and I would of said that even if he backed McCain

Who can name a white liberal that Powell has endorsed? So it is race then that caused him to choose Obama Bin Lieing. And I see posts of people in here that are jumping up and down over members of Bush's administration jumping over to Nobama. I guess this will just become another 4 years of BUSH then. ha ha.

[Jeff 232]

Who can name a white liberal that Powell has endorsed? So it is race then that caused him to choose Obama Bin Lieing. And I see posts of people in here that are jumping up and down over members of Bush's administration jumping over to Nobama. I guess this will just become another 4 years of BUSH then. ha ha.

Are you Rush, he said the same exact words.

People like a man in control and the McCain camp is just all over the place, message changes every day or so and they jump from one negative thing to another. People want to hear from McCain what he's going to do, he talks about his plan maybe 10% of the time and the other 90% he and Palin are spewing trash & hate about Obama. McCain really hasn't run a very good campaign. He shouldn't have gone negative, he didn't like it when Bush bushed him

Hey I want to go clothes shopping with Palin, she goes to some nice stores. I got to start going hanging out with the Republican National Committee, they give some sweet clothing allowances. LOL

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Who can name a white liberal that Powell has endorsed? So it is race then that caused him to choose Obama Bin Lieing. And I see posts of people in here that are jumping up and down over members of Bush's administration jumping over to Nobama. I guess this will just become another 4 years of BUSH then. ha ha.

I think General Powell was very articulate and clear about why he selected Senator Obama, so was Mr. Adelman.

Got anymore excuses?

Beth

OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!!

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Hey I want to go clothes shopping with Palin, she goes to some nice stores. I got to start going hanging out with the Republican National Committee, they give some sweet clothing allowances. LOL

Jeff she gets some interesting travel reimbursements too, on Alaska's nickle....

Palin charges Alaska for kids' travel - CNN.com

Beth

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cough cough...affirmative action...cough cough....token!

I don't deny that Nobama is an intelligent person. He is. But it takes more than that to be a good president. Judgment, character, integrity, morals...things like this are just as important. If intelligence was all it took then police deptartments would just recruit the "smart" people...but since police recruiters are smart people themselves, they know that to even be a police officer it takes more than just "smarts".

Nobama has proven over and over that his judgment isn't very good. Sitting on a board with a known terrorist. Poor judgment. Being involved with ACORN, an organization being sued my many states for registering people to vote illegaly. Poor judgment, lack of integrity.

The list goes on and on. Nobama would have a hard time becoming a police officer, how much more does he lack the qualifications needed to run this country?

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

I don't deny that Nobama is an intelligent person. He is. But it takes more than that to be a good president. Judgment, character, integrity, morals...things like this are just as important. If intelligence was all it took then police deptartments would just recruit the "smart" people...but since police recruiters are smart people themselves, they know that to even be a police officer it takes more than just "smarts".

Nobama has proven over and over that his judgment isn't very good. Sitting on a board with a known terrorist. Poor judgment. Being involved with ACORN, an organization being sued my many states for registering people to vote illegaly. Poor judgment, lack of integrity.

The list goes on and on. Nobama would have a hard time becoming a police officer, how much more does he lack the qualifications needed to run this country?

General Colin Powell (race aside people) is a fair minded leader who says he likes Obama better for many reasons. Likewise Adelman who has been serving Republican presidents for many years - like decades - is putting his vote in for Obama. These are very serious statements people. There was an article yesterday that said there are 70 SEVENTY countries backing Obama, that's almost 4 to 1 in favor of Obama.

Beth

PS

Britons, French, Germans Solidly Back Obama

Cafferty File: Tell Jack how you really feel Blog Archive - Why do citizens in 70 countries prefer Obama to McCain? - Blogs from CNN.com

World Citizens Prefer Obama to McCain by Nearly 4-to-1

Edited October 22, 2008 by Beth n Rod
added PS

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Jeff, Likewise it was just yesterday that Sullivan's show pointed to an unfocused nature of McCain's campaign and how the past elected presidents had their managers on them constantly keeping them on poiint.

Hey I like the idea in general of playing up your abilities and acheivements. Works in business and personal life. I think McCain could do better at such. But hey since when there been a 'running against' that doesn't include and expect candidates addressing the wrongs in each other's plan or past actions?. Is silly calling foul on 'negativety'. It is all McCain has to work with concerning Obama. I mean how ya gonna make a silk purse out a sows ear? Above all I thank all those that speak the truth of a candidates past or their intentions. Consider it fair warning to the people if you will. Yea being calm and serene has its place in certain atmosphere but in this day and the current crisis befalling America??. That is just dumb. Obama so slow and calm today in responding to tax plan concerns that he looked to be falling asleep. Yea that's it folks. Stick head in sand and vote for a slow calm regression/resession. Repealing Bush's tax cut is what he said. How dumb a statement was that today??

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General Colin Powell (race aside people) is a fair minded leader who says he likes Obama better for many reasons. Likewise Adelman who has been serving Republican presidents for many years - like decades - is putting his vote in for Obama. These are very serious statements people. There was an article yesterday that said there are 70 SEVENTY countries backing Obama, that's almost 4 to 1 in favor of Obama.

Beth

General Powell has been saying for months that it would be great to have a black president. He is backing Nobama for one reason and one reason only. It's as simple as that.

Adelman has been duped by Nobama's smooth talking and style. He has a chip on his shoulder and this is the reason that he is backing Nobama.

The fact that France backs Nobama something like 70:1 is a sure sign that we need to vote against Nobama. I saw that news story too, but I can't find it now. Who cares what the rest of the world thinks anyway? You're telling me that we should base ANYTHING we do on what the rest of the world thinks? I say just the opposite. Socialist countries that are jealous and hate America should have no voice in our policies.

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Haaaaaa, lmaof..OMG that is hysterically funny stuff Beth!!

Yea that's it, side with or listen to world citizen populations that has 43% of ther population believing who becomes American president doesn't effect their country. What was it..63% had no opinion even? Guess they feel their markets are flourishing and things aren't interconnected as much as we hear in our media.

Rule of thumb... always side the opposite of friend or foe that tend to have their best interest at heart at your expense.

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I think General Powell was very articulate and clear about why he selected Senator Obama...

Beth

OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!!

Really? Especially about his statement that he regards Obama's close brotherhood with terrorists and Islamics as "trivial". Insane! He is 'articulate' only in respect to the colloquial norm - not so well-spoken in respect to clarity, much like Obama. Don't be led about like a sheep - in the short term Obama may have some positive effect, but if Biden is correct and an international crisis occurs within the next few months we will have a problem. Picture the professional student Obama meeting with antagonistic Islamic heads of state and saying 'c'mon fellas, can't we all just get along?'. It is imperative that we have strong leadership. McCain brings that. He has the scars to prove it and I can and do attest to the wisdom he has as a result of his battles. He can get the job done. In respect to B.O. his 'scars' consist of a few paper cuts. For myself it matters little - I won't be around to see America brought down to the level of much of the rest of the world of which B.O. declares he is "a citizen of the world". An American is a citizen of America, contrary to Obama. Be an American and do all you can to keep this Obama guy out of American politics - your progeny depends upon it.

Richard

Edited October 22, 2008 by RJTravel

[Jeff 232]

General Powell has been saying for months that it would be great to have a black president. He is backing Nobama for one reason and one reason only. It's as simple as that.

Adelman has been duped by Nobama's smooth talking and style. He has a chip on his shoulder and this is the reason that he is backing Nobama.

The fact that France backs Nobama something like 70:1 is a sure sign that we need to vote against Nobama. I saw that news story too, but I can't find it now. Who cares what the rest of the world thinks anyway? You're telling me that we should base ANYTHING we do on what the rest of the world thinks? I say just the opposite. Socialist countries that are jealous and hate America should have no voice in our policies.

Oh come on Ant, the only reason a smart man with his credentials would pick Obama is because they are both black, come I hope you really dont believe that. He could of stayed neutral, Powell has never been one to look for attention or the lime light. Only reason come on, you starting to sound crazy dude.

Because other countries like him, thats a bad thing????? Doesn't mean they are going to have a voice in our policies. So maybe we should just leave Bush in office with your logic, hell most the world can't stand him. I guess thats a good thing to you. Do you remember President Reagan, a tough President but liked by our allies. Maybe Obama will be the liberal but effective Reagan. Watch out Nancy might jump ship too LOL LOL

Another thing Ant, for the most part why would a lot of people want to vote for McCain, his campaign has been horrible, he spends 95% of his time just trying to trash talk Obama and 5% of his time talking about his plans. He really has been all over the place, one day its one thing and another its something else. Palin was a stunt, whether the Rep Base likes her she wasn't a very good pick and like I said it was a stunt instead of a well thought out choice. Heck a lot of the right wing base are backing away from her, not just Colin Powell

We having fun yet Ant?