John T 744 Report post Posted August 13, 2013 Both of the above have their benefits and different types of business models may need one or the other or both involved in your business. That's all common knowledge. All that aside what would you rather have working for you Subs or Employees? Personally I rather have Employees. I don't want other people's headaches and running my own business I rather deal with my own crew. Subs may do "Subpar" work where my guys do not. What's your thoughts on this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steven 37 Report post Posted August 13, 2013 I would use employees 1 Beth n Rod reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted September 1, 2013 I would use employees Ditto.... Beth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kristopher Pettitt 23 Report post Posted September 4, 2013 Definitely employees..... when the time is right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian 155 Report post Posted September 4, 2013 Both are too darn slow if you ask me. But I would rather have an employee on a regular basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C2damofoj 16 Report post Posted November 28, 2013 Saves a lot of $ in workers comp. premiums to have subs, but comes with a lot of headache. TN is rapidly changing the laws to where its harder and harder to sub contract work. No matter how you have a person set up, they are deemed "sub" or "employee" by the state by a series of questions: Do you provide tools or equipment for their daily operations? Do you control where they work on a day to day basis? Do you direct their daily job duties? etc. The goal here is to force the employer to pay the employees taxes so that they get paid and get paid on time. Its almost always more cost effective to subcontract dangerous jobs, as the w.c. percentages for pressure washing multi story buildings can be 30-50%. In some cases even more. Also it is now mandatory to pay the employees FICA and withholdings, unless they are a true subcontractor. This adds to the burden as it is much easier to issue a 1099 to each person at the end of the year. I have found some benefits of using subs, it nice to have their insurance policy in place to take the blow if something goes wrong. Also, It can actually be a money maker. I have used other pw companies as subs for big jobs, and they have done the same to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cleanhoods 43 Report post Posted November 28, 2013 Both are headaches. i would rather just focus my energy on my customers and business its self. And in due time hand the reins to my children. Subs and employees honestly really dont give a flying potatoe about you or your business all they care about is the check. Marko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C2damofoj 16 Report post Posted November 28, 2013 Well said cleanhoods. no matter how much you pay someone, they will never have the same passion for your company as you do. 1 cleanhoods reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alexy 85 Report post Posted November 29, 2013 TN is using the same standards the feds use to look at employees as far as tax purposes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites