What would you charge?

[Celeste 341]

This is a deck that we are bidding on for stripping & staining. We have a price in mind to charge but at this point have not factored in additional for the "no access" upper level. We'll be bidding the house wash as well (this one has a brick front that was never properly pressure washed so can drastically improve there), driveway & sidewalk will probably be bonus if we get job.

Thanks for opinions -

Celeste

[CCHSNC 14]

I would bid it by the sqft and add some for difficulty. Don't forget about the underside of the upper level.

[Celeste 341]

Robert, what per sq. ft. did you have in mind? Total upper & lower sq ftg, including underside is 2500 sq ft. The upper deck is 9 x 17, plus railings, handrails, joists & poles.

Celeste

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Celeste,

Ignore my reply on the pwna bbs. I didnt know you were looking to have the undersides done as well. With the SqFt given,

B.P. = 3600.00 - 3800.00 strip and seal using WT.

Hope this helps.

Rod~

[James 625]

What kind of wood, how old ,what kind of finish , how old is the finish, did you do a test spot, what product are you using to seal ?

[seymore 90]

Celeste,

Do you figure out the sqft of all the 2x12's or 2x8's whichever is underneath the upper deck?

How much Lft of railing is that 100 -150?

Are you including the railing at the sqft?

Doing the upper deck by hand...spraying?

I would try to mask the house with plastic. So higher $$ when i have to use plastic.

I would charge a little more sqft wise for the upper deck.$1-1.50

Oh and that looks like vynal siding?

I hate working around that stuff!!

That upper section and underneath i wouldn't look forward to doing but the lower deck you should be able to fly thru it :)

I would say $2500-$3000

[PressurePros 249]

With all rails, posts, joists, supports, treads, and risers I am guessing by phto that you have about 3500 sf. The upper deck alone is close to 1000 sf of surface wood if not a little more, not to mention the aggravation factor of working over your head with caustic stripper. To be safe, I would estimate 30 gallons of stain. Here is how I break it down.

For a job this size I would discount to $.90/sf + materials. I would then add another $250 for the height and difficulty of top tier.

Strip, Ph balance and light sanding $1,550.00

Seal (rails hand rubbed, full prep w/plastic) $1,600.00

Materials $900.00

Extra cost $250

Final cost to customer $4,300. Job would be broken down into 4 days.

[staudend 14]

If you spray and backbrush, which I think you will on a deck this size, you definitely want to cover the majority of the back of the house with plastic, to be safe. Some say overkill, I say it's necessary. 10x10's on a roll at Walmart are easy to handle for one person or 2 and are cheap. 2 hours max with 2 people will save you a world of hurt or lawsuits.

Oh yeah, don't leave out the bench on the lower level, they add a good amount of work and I've been burn't in the past over looking them.

After all sq. feet including railings etc, are added up, for God's sake don't go below $1.00 a square minimum!! For precarb cleaning, brightening and staining with Wood Tux.

Here's a horror story from a few months ago to back up plastic. I brushed a 1700 square foot deck by hand with wood tux because it was too windy for even plastic to stay on that week. I didn't think I would need plastic, but even with brushing the wind blew it all over the vinyl, I noticed later. It was a devil getting it off. My sixth sense told me to, but my need for speed stopped me. Word to the wise, use plastic and masking tape!!

[PowerPlay 14]

With the info given I would come in around $2300.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

We use 12x100ft rolls 4mil

Rod~

[reed 500]

Celeste,

I take it that you don't do the linear measurement stuff right? As I recall your excel and mine are basically one in the same. So there is no linear measurements, it's all SF'd.

This job would be in the neighborhood of just under 4k. And that's factoring in about 250.00 for the "ladder work" you will need for the upper deck. Got to hate those don't ya?????

What was the excel total?

Reed

[Pams Pressure & Clean 64]

Reed,

I ballparked it in the spreadsheet that I modified from yours and came in around $4000. could go either way about $300 based on my PFA numbers.

BTW, I sent you an updated copy with s.f. fixed costs..I hope you got it..if not lemme know and I'll ship it over pronto. I sent a copy to Celeste too, so unless she changed it, it should be the same one as you have.

Cujo

[reed 500]

Could you send it to me one more time please? In fact I would like to see if others have made modifications and how they work.

I thought the price would be near 4K.

Reed

[Celeste 341]

Reed, I don't know if Roger used the spread sheet or just scribbled down how you measured and figured it that way. If we ever bump into each other again this week I'll ask him.

Cujo, I didn't get an email from you :( Will you try again?

Thanks,

Celeste

[seymore 90]

Cujo,

Can i get a copy of that spreadsheet?

I would like to see if i can make my life a little easier.

I've been adding all my numbers the old fashion way.I even figure the sqft per boards of the 2x8's or 2x12 on my arbors.I try not sell myself short anywhere on the sqft of a job.

seymore1024@gmail.com

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Cujo...

Please send one our way too, if it is not too much trouble...

Beth

[Duane Case 14]

I'm new here to TGS, but this will be my 8th year in business - all part time as I a am a teacher year round. I would love to see these pricing spread sheets that everyone is talking about. Would someone be so kind as to send one my way? My emai is caseclean@yahoo.com

If anyone is apprehensive sharing this with an unkown, I understand. Please feel free to test me. Ask me a question that I should know the answer to and if I respond adquately, and if you so choose, you could share this information with me.

Thank You!

Duane

[Henry B. 4]

Hey Duane,

Test you? I think your regular day job may be shining through a bit..lol

I'd send you a spread sheet on pricing but we generally price a job by the job so it wouldn't mean anything you to. Plus pricing could be completly different even 30 miles from where I live.

[Ron Musgraves 240]

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[Ron Musgraves 240]

OH,about the original question. I have no idea LOL

[seymore 90]

Duane

Here is a link to thread that has the estimating spread sheet.

http://www.thegrimescene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2951

[Duane Case 14]

Thanks for all your help... and support. I will check out these leads. I want to get a better grasp on pricing because I generally get every deck job I bid and all the work has been by repeat or referal for the last two years without advertising anywhere. I'm not an economics major, but I suspect I am not charging a competitive price (too low), so I would like to get a grasp on pricing for new customers while gradually bringing up prices to reflect closer market value for repeat customers.

I gathered that this is a top-notch site. Kudos to Beth - must be a lot of time and care to organize such a well structured site. Also, I am interested in many of the products you cary in your store.

Duane

[newlook 265]

Welcome aboard Duane...if you can't find the answer here...someone here will find the answer for you :)