I found a deck in Mesa???

[Scott Stone 604]

I did, I found a deck in Mesa. There is a guy from my church that needs to have it done. It is pressure treated pine or fur. It looks like it has a red peeling paint or stain. Probably some type of paint. It needs a little bit of work, and is about 440 sq ft. This is not a paying job for me. I am just willing to help an old guy out to make it is something that will last a while.

He would really like it to be done in one day, and likes the look of cedar.

Anyone have a suggestion on methods and products?

[Ron Musgraves 240]

It is Cedar Scott, Its painted because thats all that will make it last in the arizona SUN...

Strip it and paint in with the same stuff on it from HD.

Its not going to last long unless its in the shade.

My parents had to have a deck on there place in sunland villiage. It lasted awhile but Dad baby the thing every year.

I think its still standing. rails went bad first. Sun hit them everyday from the east.

Good Luck

[PressurePros 249]

LOL, the blind leading the blind. You guys need to stick to concrete.

Scott, that is a nightmare job most guys would run from. You can plan on three or four trips and a ton of sanding to try and get paint off of a deck. Your better bet may be to scrape off the loose stuff, apply some bleach and TSP, coat it with an oil based primer such as Cabot's Problem Solver and then do a topcoat (or two) with a latex solid stain. Its actually a high ticket item now matter how you do it but I understand you are not doing this one for profit. Just wanted to give you a heads up as to what you are getting into. Any chance of posting up some pics of it?

[Scott Stone 604]

Yeah, I think that I can get over there to take some pictures of it. There are no rails or spindles and it lies flat on the ground.

[name is Lou 15]

You have a big heart Scott.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Scott....

Call us. We can help. Also, post a pic.

Beth

p.s. ground level decks are easy to do when there are no rails, but they are a failure waiting to happen if the ground contact is too close, which it may be if you are seeing a product failure there now.

[Scott Stone 604]

It is sitting directly on the ground. I will get some pictures. It is not pretty,

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

I bet....

Yuck...

Beth

[CCPC 26]

It almost sounds like it would be more cost effective if you just tear down the old one and build him a new one.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

You might be able to install new floor board cheap...Lance has a point.

Beth

[Scott Stone 604]

I dont even want to go there. It will be a few days before I can get a pic. Seems it is our anniversary this week, so we are going out of town...To pick up our oldest son at school. And I thought Hawaii sounded good.

[Scott Stone 604]

So I finally got out my trusty camera to take some pics. Went over, and had to take the people to the hospital, and then got some pic's. So here they are.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

That's an easy deck. No rails. Barely anything on the wood. HD-80 at about 3 oz per gallon, let dwell, wash. Neutralize with ox or citric at about 6 per gallon. Let dwell, rinse rinse rinse.

Beth

[Scott Stone 604]

And for the coating? Can I put a stain, or will it need to be a pigment coat? Walk me through this, please. It is a government job...Okay, church freebie.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Well, I would two step that to seal it. It's really dry.

1. Woodrich Timber Oil - apply liberally and come back the next day...

2. apply WoodTux as your protective coat.... (both are semi-transparent but have plenty of pigment) go with Western Cedar.

Revisit with a light percarb wash and maintenance coat annually.

Beth

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Get a tip that drops your pressure down...if you don't have one already.

Use a 25 or a 40 degree tip.

Watch for start stop marks. Sweep - be careful not to go at it like you are taking off gum. Go with the grain.

Beth

p.s. no hot water.

[Ron Musgraves 240]

Scott, did you choose a brand?

[Scott Stone 604]

Not yet... Anyone want to give a sample?

[plainpainter 217]

I'd almost skip the woodtux step and just drench that thing twice a year with timberoil - until your satisfied that wood is totally filled with oils - then like 2-3 years down the road do a woodtux treatment.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Dan,

Baking in the hot, direct, AZ sun I have to say the Timber Oil alone will not cut it I don't think. I think it needs something above it to cure closer to the surface. He can still hit it with more Timber Oil down the road without taking off the Tux.

Beth

[Ron Musgraves 240]

Not yet... Anyone want to give a sample?

I would call mark in Chino valley and see what he thinks, 35 years and lives In AZ.

wheather shield products, I know he has been making them a long time.

[plainpainter 217]

Actually the more I think about it - I have a really hot hot deck - that constantly is barfing up sap through the stain because it gets so hot. I would drench that deck with Cretowood - to totally petrify it on the inside - so no chance of sap oozing out like little volcanic activity - and then topcoat it with woodtux.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Heck, sap vein boards are the worst. Better off replacing the board. It will not stop oozing until the vein is depleted....

Beth

[RPetry 564]

I would call mark in Chino valley and see what he thinks, 35 years and lives In AZ.

Ron,

Probably the largest and most successful exterior wood contractor in the U.S. to date. For all time. Mark is one amazing and fine fellow.

[Ron Musgraves 240]

Ron,

Probably the largest and most successful exterior wood contractor in the U.S. to date. For all time. Mark is one amazing and fine fellow.

thanks for info, yeah i knwo him...