"Sheen"

[B.A. 14]

hopefully the pictures above transferred correctly.

stained this deck last Thursday with Sikkens cedar semi, hot day was sucking it right in, so applied a wet coat.

the history with this deck is that it was built a yer ago with PTP and the builders stained it with 3 coats of something (an oil base not Behr). It looked pretty bad; continuity was definitely an issue. So we come in....strip, wash, neutralize, and sand, and at the customers request use the Sikkens. No problem, I've used Sikkens- expensive, prefer AC, but whatever, it's a semi trans oil, so I'm happy-.........until the streaks or as we're calling it "The Sheen"

My guess here: 1. PTP that was never allowed to weather contributing to inconsistent absorption rates?

2. Gonna try to knock off sheen with a sanding sponge?

3. Doubt customer will be satisfied with until it is uniform and continuous, but if we strip again, should we advise to allow PTP to weather?

Thanks

[blizzy 28]

hot day says it all. Sounds like it flashed on you, which really sucks cuz it will probably fail in 2 months. A/C stains can be applied in heat of the day but Sickens not so. Also, keep in mind that sickens finishes with a bit of shine at the best of times. Oh how I hate the stuff.

[blizzy 28]

also, pics look like you may have over applied a bit too. looks a bit lapmarked. Sorry dude but it may be all bad for you. More and more reasons why we all should refuse to use that muck.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Over application.

Go back and wipe it down with mineral spirits on just the shiny areas. May help, may not. It's your best shot.

Beth

[seymore 90]

Would laq thinner or xylene work?

I know they are stronger than thinner?

[Lightning Gene 66]

I keep telling everyone RUN FROM SIKKENS !

[steven 37]

What Beth says. I carry a rag and when over applied I wipe it off. you will see it just doesn't go into the wood anymore.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

If it has set up, the answer may just be time too....

Beth

[RPetry 564]

... 3. Doubt customer will be satisfied with until it is uniform and continuous, but if we strip again, should we advise to allow PTP to weather?

Ryan,

A year of weathering on PTP should be plenty of time. Unless the wood was full out shaded from the sun and/or protected from moisture.

I'm not familiar with Sikkens but if it is mostly oil based, you may want to try acetone. Take a rag, douse it with some acetone, and quickly try rubbing out a small "shiner". The stuff is extremely volatile and evaporates quickly.

A note of caution. Don't light a smoke when working with acetone.

Edited June 5, 2013 by RPetry

[James 625]

After a night of womanizing and hard core drinking Charley Sheen has been known to get Sikkens . He has been found face down on many decks and doesn't remeber how he got there ?

[Tonyg 14]

After a night of womanizing and hard core drinking Charley Sheen has been known to get Sikkens . He has been found face down on many decks and doesn't remeber how he got there ?

Hah, you don't need solvents either - just some hot water to break it up!

[B.A. 14]

Going to redo this project. Did not try the solvents, customer wants redo. _H_T Happens. Part of the job-Always learning. Thanks Everybody.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

*sigh*

Good luck.

Beth

[Adrian 155]

Going to redo this project. Did not try the solvents, customer wants redo. _H_T Happens. Part of the job-Always learning. Thanks Everybody.

Feels better when it quits hurting.

At least you have the pros here for all the pointers.

[steven 37]

Man that's a bummer. I do commend you for doing it.

[seymore 90]

Not easier to fix than strip? Stripping fresh stain is a PITA! Sickens to boot too...

good luck with that...better have some booster handy?

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Apply deck stripper. Let dwell. SCRUB with stiff bristled deck brush. Apply more stripper, repeat, THEN wash. Neutralize....rinse....

Beth

[James 625]

Gee ,a minor sanding of the sheen and reduce the sikkens with spirits . apply a very light coat and collect check.

That deck has been Charlie Sheened !

Edited June 13, 2013 by James

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Jim,

I respectfully disagree.....

Beth

[steven 37]

I would AT least try to fix.

[James 625]

I always try a few things before having to do an unnessasary strip job. Looks to an easy fix .

[B.A. 14]

Thanks everybody, got rained out during tail end of this redo yesterday...going back for a SECOND strip :sorrow: today. thanks Beth on the brush tips, there are some areas underneath some built in benches that your technique will come in handy. I will continue to document.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Good luck!!! :-)

Beth

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

How did it go?

Beth