Obama - Biden - Your Opinion ?

[Apple Roof Cleaning 202]

What do YOU think about THIS ticket

[HotShot 34]

Any person is going to be better than the Team of DUMB @ DUMMER (Bush/ Chenny). The World hates us, the Oil crisis , Mortgage crisis, Katrina crisis, Perscrip Drug crisis , Gas crisis, Health care crisis, American Dollar crisis, Middle East crisis

This is the kind of stuff that I hear from liberals everyday. (Not trying to pick on you James) This is their outlook on our great nation. Is this what you want to vote for? It's always complaints, never solutions...oh wait, I do remember a couple of solutions.

The World hates us - So lets give them money, food, clean water and talk with the poor terrorists.

Oil Crisis - Lets all ride around on bicycles and protect the spotted turtles, instead of drilling for our own oil.

Mortgage crises - Lets give more loans to the underprivileged even though they don't deserve it or have any way to pay it back.

Katrina - yeah, the gov't should rebuild every single persons house that was destroyed by a natural disaster that happens every freakin year!!! Oh wait, I forgot, Bush snorkeled down and blew up the levy himself. I'm not sure what kind of people stand on their porches screaming for the gov't to come get them when they have 2 legs, but I assure you, they are not hard working folk!

Prescription Drugs - Free Health Care for everybody...woohoo. Nothing like the DMV running heathcare.

Gas crisis - See above. Also, lets have the gov't MAKE everybody drive around in an unsafe tin box, but hey, it gets 30 mpg.

Health Care - See above. Hilary has our answer to that.

American Dollar crisis - I'm not sure what the Dems solution for this one is.

Middle East Crisis - Lets sit down with the poor little terrorists and discuss why they want to obliterate western society. After that, we'll have tea and strumpets.... or roach legs or whatever the freakin dirty bassturds eat.

[Apple Roof Cleaning 202]

We MUST free ourselves from dependance on Oil.

[Apple Roof Cleaning 202]

Here's a couple pictures of Mitt.

That ain't Mitt Romney, thats John Carey, that tall, skinny looking Dork Dufus.

The OTHER guy is Handsome, is his name Herman Munster or Frankenstein :lgbugeyes

[Jeff 232]

This is the kind of stuff that I hear from liberals everyday. (Not trying to pick on you James) This is their outlook on our great nation. Is this what you want to vote for? It's always complaints, never solutions...oh wait, I do remember a couple of solutions.

The World hates us - So lets give them money, food, clean water and talk with the poor terrorists.

Oil Crisis - Lets all ride around on bicycles and protect the spotted turtles, instead of drilling for our own oil.

Mortgage crises - Lets give more loans to the underprivileged even though they don't deserve it or have any way to pay it back.

Katrina - yeah, the gov't should rebuild every single persons house that was destroyed by a natural disaster that happens every freakin year!!! Oh wait, I forgot, Bush snorkeled down and blew up the levy himself. I'm not sure what kind of people stand on their porches screaming for the gov't to come get them when they have 2 legs, but I assure you, they are not hard working folk!

Prescription Drugs - Free Health Care for everybody...woohoo. Nothing like the DMV running heathcare.

Gas crisis - See above. Also, lets have the gov't MAKE everybody drive around in an unsafe tin box, but hey, it gets 30 mpg.

Health Care - See above. Hilary has our answer to that.

American Dollar crisis - I'm not sure what the Dems solution for this one is.

Middle East Crisis - Lets sit down with the poor little terrorists and discuss why they want to obliterate western society. After that, we'll have tea and strumpets.... or roach legs or whatever the freakin dirty bassturds eat.

Hey Ant buddy you got $50 buck I can have?

I want to send another donation to the Obama campaign

Edited August 30, 2008 by Jeff

[HotShot 34]

Hey Ant buddy you got $50 buck I care have?

I want to send another donation to the Obama campaign

:D No the economy is too bad and my house is being repossessed.

[Mike Williamson 198]

:D No the economy is too bad and my house is being repossessed.

Yeah, but hang in there...Obama is coming to socialize everything and stick for you underdogs against the rich evil Republicans!

[HotShot 34]

Finally some change...I'm tired of the phone ringing all the time with people wanting me to do work for them, I just want to sit back and enjoy life, they should pay me for that. After all, I'm 31 and I've been paying into Social Security for a long time, they owe me!!!

[Jeff 232]

Mike & Ant, just want to ask you a REAL question. I know you all always state socialism. But whats your views on health care? I feel its broken to some extent. Its costing more & more every year, less and less companies are offering it to workers even if they pay into it, unlike in the past where many companies have offered it, there are more & more people that dont have health care. The more we privatize it the more expensive it seems to get

How can it be fixed?

I know many say if you cant afford it oh well. well we, this country isn't going to tell millions of people screw you you cant have health care if you can't afford it, so what happens they go to hospitals which cost more and they get it free to them, but it raises all our rates and makes it more difficult for the average person or company to carry health care. what can be done

I know some of it is frivolous lawsuits, but many of these lawsuits aren't frivolous. There are many that should be compensated if they are damaged, killed by a bad doctor or mistake. There are hack doctors just like there are hack pressure washers.

All the cost of health care isn't the fault of lawyers either. I get Nexum, its a drug that has been on the market for years, I am sure the research & development of it has been paid for for some years now but if I had to buy it with out insurance it would cost me $364 a month for 60 pills, I also take Lipitor and that without insurance would cost almost $200 a month and I just started taking another medicine that would cost just over $400 a month, I just checked into this because I had to buy some because I forgot my medicine when I went on a little vacations and the pharmacist told me the prices. I ended up just buying a few pill till I got back home

Theres over $950 each month I would have to pay and there's many that have meds that cost more than that. How can people afford it? I need these medicines if I dont have them, I could have more health issues that would require even more expensive treatments later or it could contribute to me dieing earlier. No Nexum I could get cancer quicker cancer treatment.

If it was just a couple million people without health care I would say we can absorb it, but there is what 40, 45, 47 million people now without health care and at least the bottom 50% of people in this country could never afford full premiums that would be charged to have health care.

Lots of health care cost are because heath care companies charge American more than other countries, so we are actually paying for other countries to have lower or no cost health care to some degree

We cant just let 47 miilion people, then 50 million , then 71 million people have NO health care, it ends up costing more & more that way. Or we are paying for all the illegals to have free heath care and please just dont blame the democrats for letting all the illegals in, Prez Bush himself wants open borders so its a dem & republican thing

I just dont know what to do, how do you solve it?

Please dont say oh well screw them or tell to get a higher paying job, there will always be poverty, a lower class, middle class & upper class. If we don't have a strong health care plan and coverage soon enough only the upper class will have heath insurance. And I don't feel bad for the health care industry or insurance companies they always make very good profits

How can it be fixed???? Are we not our brothers keeper.

Edited August 30, 2008 by Jeff

[James 624]

Jeff , yesterday while I was working out at the Gym I met the owner of a Business who thinks if Obama becomes President ? It will be like having a Terrorist or the Devil in charge of the American people and the down fall of the world(the Apocalypse). These thoughts started to make me nervous because this was the only focus of the conversation. It was like talking to someone from a Cult or was possessed . I finally realized I was talking to a Ultra Conservative Right Wing Republican Religious Zealot.Talk about Scary, other people working out started to get nervous from over hearing this conversation.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

I grew up in a very Republican household. I have voted both Republican and Democrat in my lifetime. No one in my family is planning to vote republican this time. I know more people who are changing and swinging left than sticking right.

Some areas are not as bad off as others in the US that may be true. I live in Germantown MD. You know what that means right now? We live in the part of MD that leads our state in forclosures!!! Do you have any idea what it is like to have dozens of mailer cards come back marked VACANT?! To see the family across the street just move out after the house has sat on the market for OVER A YEAR. Our neighbor is the city of Gaithersburg and guess what folks that's the #2 area for forclosures. Isn't that wonderful for our service area?

I could go on and on.

GObama!

Beth

Edited August 30, 2008 by Beth n Rod
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[Beth n Rod 1,279]

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[Jeff 232]

Jeff , yesterday while I was working out at the Gym I met the owner of a Business who thinks if Obama becomes President ? It will be like having a Terrorist or the Devil in charge of the American people and the down fall of the world(the Apocalypse). These thoughts started to make me nervous because this was the only focus of the conversation. It was like talking to someone from a Cult or was possessed . I finally realized I was talking to a Ultra Conservative Right Wing Republican Religious Zealot.Talk about Scary, other people working out started to get nervous from over hearing this conversation.

The extreme is always scary, there are many of them out there on many sides, thank God they are the minority

[Mike Williamson 198]

Mike & Ant, just want to ask you a REAL question. I know you all always state socialism. But whats your views on health care? I feel its broken to some extent. Its costing more & more every year, less and less companies are offering it to workers even if they pay into it, unlike in the past where many companies have offered it, there are more & more people that dont have health care. The more we privatize it the more expensive it seems to get

How can it be fixed?

I know many say if you cant afford it oh well. well we, this country isn't going to tell millions of people screw you you cant have health care if you can't afford it, so what happens they go to hospitals which cost more and they get it free to them, but it raises all our rates and makes it more difficult for the average person or company to carry health care. what can be done

I know some of it is frivolous lawsuits, but many of these lawsuits aren't frivolous. There are many that should be compensated if they are damaged, killed by a bad doctor or mistake. There are hack doctors just like there are hack pressure washers.

All the cost of health care isn't the fault of lawyers either. I get Nexum, its a drug that has been on the market for years, I am sure the research & development of it has been paid for for some years now but if I had to buy it with out insurance it would cost me $364 a month for 60 pills, I also take Lipitor and that without insurance would cost almost $200 a month and I just started taking another medicine that would cost just over $400 a month, I just checked into this because I had to buy some because I forgot my medicine when I went on a little vacations and the pharmacist told me the prices. I ended up just buying a few pill till I got back home

Theres over $950 each month I would have to pay and there's many that have meds that cost more than that. How can people afford it? I need these medicines if I dont have them, I could have more health issues that would require even more expensive treatments later or it could contribute to me dieing earlier. No Nexum I could get cancer quicker cancer treatment.

If it was just a couple million people without health care I would say we can absorb it, but there is what 40, 45, 47 million people now without health care and at least the bottom 50% of people in this country could never afford full premiums that would be charged to have health care.

Lots of health care cost are because heath care companies charge American more than other countries, so we are actually paying for other countries to have lower or no cost health care to some degree

We cant just let 47 miilion people, then 50 million , then 71 million people have NO health care, it ends up costing more & more that way. Or we are paying for all the illegals to have free heath care and please just dont blame the democrats for letting all the illegals in, Prez Bush himself wants open borders so its a dem & republican thing

I just dont know what to do, how do you solve it?

Please dont say oh well screw them or tell to get a higher paying job, there will always be poverty, a lower class, middle class & upper class. If we don't have a strong health care plan and coverage soon enough only the upper class will have heath insurance. And I don't feel bad for the health care industry or insurance companies they always make very good profits

How can it be fixed???? Are we not our brothers keeper.

YOu can buy Nexium over the counter, it is now even generic. Prilosec OTC is nexium at 1/2 the strength...so take two pills. With insurance, nexium cost me $25.00/month. It costs me $21.00 for a 21 day regimen of the generic Prilosec. Sure, that's not the case with every drug, but in many cases, there are ways to get what you need without paying through the nose.

It doesn't take being "upper class" to afford insurance.

It isn't the government's job to fix health care...no more than it is the government's job to fix gas prices or grocery prices or housing prices.

[Cajun Cleanin 64]

I'm sorry we asked for the world trade center bombing so we could go to war in afghanistan and Iraq.

I'm also sorry people are losing their jobs because companies are cutting them loose for the profit margin to grow.

I have to ask the american people to forgive me because gas is high.

Iran,North Korea let's be friends if you want nukes we will give em to you just to say we share,mom always told us to share,right?We know you just want nukes to say you have them, I collect stamps so I understand the collectors mentality.

To all the people we left behind in Katrina,lets just call the THREE years we have been feeding and housing you with a little check on the side even ok.No hard feelings right?Oh and by the way since we FORCED yall to live in the FEMA trailers for free and you think you may have gotten sick from the free room and board go ahead and sue us we don't mind, we may try to get yall on federal disability for life to make for it.

Our friends to the south we were just kidding,make yourselves at home here,Me kasa, you kasa and to sweeten the deal here is a social security check to send back home.To really make you feel at home we will just let you slide on those ,hem whats the word here?Oh yeah taxes.

Welcome all and our deepest apologys

Love Obama

PS Joe says Hi

[HotShot 34]

Jeff.... to answer your question about healthcare... (You may not like this) I don't think the gov't has any place in healthcare. I don't remember reading anything about them controlling healthcare in the constitution.

I think the market would control itself with competition and prices if the gov't would just get out of the way. Just like it does in every other industry.

I don't know if you know this, but there is a cure to cancer, AIDS and every other blood related disease out there. The cure is forbidden to talk about because of the gov't and anybody that is caught giving this cure to somebody would be arrested. There is no money in the cure, therefore it's not widely known and very suppressed. There are thousands of documented cases and was proven to work 100% of the time. By the way, an evil Christian scientist invented the little $20 device to do this.

Anyway, my point is the gov't has no business in healthcare. That's my answer.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Jeff.... to answer your question about healthcare... (You may not like this) I don't think the gov't has any place in healthcare. I don't remember reading anything about them controlling healthcare in the constitution.

I think the market would control itself with competition and prices if the gov't would just get out of the way. Just like it does in every other industry.

I don't know if you know this, but there is a cure to cancer, AIDS and every other blood related disease out there. The cure is forbidden to talk about because of the gov't and anybody that is caught giving this cure to somebody would be arrested. There is no money in the cure, therefore it's not widely known and very suppressed. There are thousands of documented cases and was proven to work 100% of the time. By the way, an evil Christian scientist invented the little $20 device to do this.

Anyway, my point is the gov't has no business in healthcare. That's my answer.

So share it so we can all be healthy... :lol:

Beth

[HotShot 34]

Beth are you trying to get me arrested so I don't vote for Palin....er I mean McCain?

:D

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

I'll believe it when I see it.

Till then it's BS.

Beth

[HotShot 34]

yeah, I wouldn't believe anything you couldn't see either...

[Rick2 42]

I grew up in a very Republican household. I have voted both Republican and Democrat in my lifetime. No one in my family is planning to vote republican this time. I know more people who are changing and swinging left than sticking right.

Some areas are not as bad off as others in the US that may be true. I live in Germantown MD. You know what that means right now? We live in the part of MD that leads our state in forclosures!!! Do you have any idea what it is like to have dozens of mailer cards come back marked VACANT?! To see the family across the street just move out after the house has sat on the market for OVER A YEAR. Our neighbor is the city of Gaithersburg and guess what folks that's the #2 area for forclosures. Isn't that wonderful for our service area?

I could go on and on.

GObama!

Beth

I can speak personally on foreclosures but I’ve never been through one myself. A very good friend kept refinancing his house to buy things he really didn’t need. I’m not going to tell anyone how to live but really, who needs three new Harley Davisons when the house is in dire need of repairs. He got so far in the hole and couldn’t pay the bills. Now he has no house and no motorcycles.

Person across the street lost his house. Even when he and his wife were having trouble with the bills they still went out and bought a new Jeep and a Lexus. What’s more important, what you drive or having a home?

I’ve always drove 100 dollar beaters as daily drivers up until last year. Bought a new SUV for the wife and I took her Altima the day after she drove it into the back of a cube van. Drove cheap cars and paid heavy on my house loan. I’m down to just 6 thousand on a 12 year old house. If I can do it I’m sure anyone can.

Do you think the government should bail out these people about to lose their home? I don’t. People have to start taking responsibility for their own actions and not rely on the government. Buying a new house is a huge responsibility. Why on Earth would someone buy new cars or motorcycles when they can’t pay rent?

[Jeff 232]

YOu can buy Nexium over the counter, it is now even generic. Prilosec OTC is nexium at 1/2 the strength...so take two pills. With insurance, nexium cost me $25.00/month. It costs me $21.00 for a 21 day regimen of the generic Prilosec. Sure, that's not the case with every drug, but in many cases, there are ways to get what you need without paying through the nose.

It doesn't take being "upper class" to afford insurance.

It isn't the government's job to fix health care...no more than it is the government's job to fix gas prices or grocery prices or housing prices.

Can't buy my Nexium over the counter, I have very bad acid reflux and to the pint where I am at a higher risk for cancer due to the reflux going up into my esophagus. I know what it cost I was told by the pharmacist

Then how does anything get fixed, so get rid of regulations on EVERYTHING is that your answer? Just let everything go without regulations ya that will work real well. Might as well go back to the days of Kings & Queens tax people and give them nothing

So its alright with you if we have 50, 60, 100, 150 million with very little or no health care, thats just stupid, because they will just go to the emergency rooms and it will cost triple and we will have to pay anyway

Regulation is needed greed will always take over sooner or later

More and more cant afford it something has to be done. I hope someday you dont have a crisis and can't work and cant get health care. Fix the abuses of people and the companies and make it more affordable or free to all. Is Canada wrong, they have a plan the citizens like

[cdposey26 14]

The Problems with Socialized Health Care

[Jeff 232]

Jeff.... to answer your question about healthcare... (You may not like this) I don't think the gov't has any place in healthcare. I don't remember reading anything about them controlling healthcare in the constitution.

I think the market would control itself with competition and prices if the gov't would just get out of the way. Just like it does in every other industry.

I don't know if you know this, but there is a cure to cancer, AIDS and every other blood related disease out there. The cure is forbidden to talk about because of the gov't and anybody that is caught giving this cure to somebody would be arrested. There is no money in the cure, therefore it's not widely known and very suppressed. There are thousands of documented cases and was proven to work 100% of the time. By the way, an evil Christian scientist invented the little $20 device to do this.

Anyway, my point is the gov't has no business in healthcare. That's my answer.

Your mother, your father, your aunts & uncles, granfather, grandmother and many other you know and love have needed or used or will government healthcare. We have given corp welfare to that industry, medicare to senoirs millions

Do you want to tell your grandmother sorry the US Gov is getting out of healthcare, go buy your own drugs grandma and when she cant are YOU going to give her the $2132 a month she needs to cover the cost? My mothers drugs are over $2000 a months she pays several hundred on top of that

Get real guys the gov is already in the biz and with out them many more would be with out yes many of your own family present and ones who have passed

I dont want to die because I cant afford a little pill do you really?

[Jeff 232]

I'm done talking to you compassionate conservitives about this, it just baffles me but its what you think I hope those closet to you never have to suffer needlessly because what you want comes true

God Bless the children

[Apple Roof Cleaning 202]

The Problems with Socialized Health Care

MAYBE socialized Health Care will be BETTER then No Health Care ?

ONE thing is for SURE, we ARE gonna find out.

This is going to be THE most Lopsided Election in history, or one of them.

McCain has as much chance of winning as a Fart in the wind.

BLACKS, the FORGOTTON PEOPLE in Polls, will turn out in record numbers for their own.

So, since it is coming anyway, why not take a "wait and see" attitude about it, instead of riling yourself up about something you can;t change anyway ?

A Poll was done about WHO are the happiest nations on the Planet ?

Surprise, it wasn't the US

It was the Danes, and they are SOCIALIST as all hell.

They PAY almost 40 percent in Taxes, yet their needs are taken care of.

Works for them, why not take a "wait and see" attitude ?

Maybe it will work for us ?

Personally, I am for LESS Govt and Less Taxes.

But IF I gotta pay a lot of taxes anyway, i want something back.

HELLO SOCIALISM