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  1. 7 points
    Douglas Hicks

    Certification Question

    Even in those areas where NFPA is adopted by the AHJ, there is no enforcement. Ask your local AHJ if he has ever pulled a filter or laddered the roof to look at the fan. Ask if he knows what the standard for the depth of grease is, and ask if he has a method to measure the depth. Your best bet to learning this business is to contact a hood cleaner and pay him to work with him for a week. You pay the $$ to attend a class, and you will still not know if you can do the job. I am not reffering to the actual cleaning, but going to work at 10:00 PM and not getting done until 3:00 or 4:00 AM, then going home and being up at 8:00 AM to do a day cleaning and then working all night again. You will develop the ability to take a 10 minute nap and head for the next job. Look at some of those here on this board and see how many have lasted 5 years, 10 years and more. Alexy, how about a poll? Kitchens are the most difficult PW to do, lots of turnover. Most of the classes are an expensive scam. At least the guy in FLA is gone. By the Tennessee class, I assume you mean CHDC, Rusty and his operation. If you go, wear hi-top boots. And make sure you buy one of the filter support racks for filter cleaning. Forging a relationship with some of the posters here will be more valuable than attending a class.
  2. 4 points
    We still go door to door and hang door hangers. This is the first marketing we ever did and although we have grown from other sources we refuse to quit what work for us in the beginning. "Never forget where you come from" It is not easy but in my opinion it is a great source for new business! Internet is an excellent choice as well! We have NOT successful with EDDM, and for that reason have discontinued it. If you don't mind doing a little extra work take a look at sendjim, https://sendjim.io/home they have some great marketing ideas at affordable pricing.
  3. 4 points

    Cedar shake strip and stain pctures

    Just a couple of pics of a project I am working on, this was some really old shakes that needed two fat coats of amber. you can see on the front where i left off on the second coat.
  4. 4 points
    The way I see this is. If you can't clean the fan don't bother with the rest. Just reschedule the job to a day that has better weather.
  5. 4 points

    Ego vs. Giving Back

    Support local charities and help people in your community who need it. Keep it between you, them, and God.
  6. 4 points

    Ego vs. Giving Back

    There is no drawback from doing the right thing. The drawbacks come from when people want to do the right thing for the wrong reason. Personally I think it goes against what god wants people to do to brag about how you donate or help out a service organization and expect to get positive exposure or a tax credit. Do it because you want to and be done with it. If you recieve a donation letter from them so be it but don't go looking for it.
  7. 3 points

    Lessons Learned in 2018

    My only "guarantee" is to turn up & do my best (results as explained)
  8. 3 points
    Beth n Rod

    Lessons Learned in 2018

    I find that customers like you described are often ones that have been either taken by another contractor or were given unreasonable expectations. I have won these types over by setting the expectations and when possible over delivering. Then there are ones that just can't be pleased no matter what and they expect miracles. These often have conditions that can't be reversed and likely induced by either the homeowner/diyer or a hack. Some people are so difficult that I will intentionally bid it high to deter their acceptance but in the case they become desparate set a very low expectation. In the case of excessive questions, I find it that they are insecure and often a bit squirrelley to begin with. I try to be patient but sometimes find I have to control the narrative and leave them with either yes or no responses because they don't understand aspects about the project/scope/technology/chemistry etc. This helps them to find a path to a decision but I often have to leave a comfort line at the end, something to the effect of....if you have any further questions you can call me at... Guarantees. What is to guarantee in our line of work? That the dirt will come off? That the results will last 'X' years? I offer none where this is concerned even if I am the first one on the job because there are things I have no control over. I don't make the sealers, chemicals, stains etc. that are being applied. I didn't get the substrate dirty and have no idea of what it has been subject to and no way to tell until AFTER the work begins to reveal what was hidden or obstructed/disguised. What are your thoughts on Guarantees? Rod
  9. 3 points
    New or return customers? If new customers, how did they hear about you? Referral? You'll likely have several different figures depending upon how they got your info. New customers who just found me online I'm about 40%, but that's only because I try and pre-qualify them before ever considering a site visit. I get a description from them over the phone or email, then I'll provide a brief explanation of the service I'm proposing as well as a price range. I let them know if the price range sounds reasonable to them, then we could meet to discuss & finalize the details. New customers who were referred to me from someone I've serviced in the past would be about 65%. Return customers about 90-95% When I first started my own biz in 1998, I thought I was killing it because I got most of the jobs I went and bid on. Come to find out it was only because I was offering my services way too cheap, (that's typically because many of us don't truly understand our total operating costs when starting a business). Although situations vary, I'd say that if you're closing % is much more than 50% from people who don't know you and just found your info online or in print, then you need to reevaluate your pricing.
  10. 3 points
    We use both M5 X-Jet for House washing and we use a 12 volt 7gpm Fatboy or Shureflow Pump for Roofcleaning. We like the X-jet because you can reach upwards of 3 stories. You can apply chemical without ladders and can also clean most vertical surfaces without ladders. The roof setup gets the right chemical on the roof surface at low pressure.
  11. 3 points
    mike movila

    Real Estate Agents

    I also have done quiet a bit of work for Real Estate agents in my area. What has worked for me personally is developing a good working relationship with those top sales agents and reward them with small gifts after a few jobs that goes a long way especially when you do excellent work.
  12. 3 points
    Beth n Rod

    Newbie question

    I will expound on what Guy was saying. There is a sliding scale that many contractor use towards pricing and it is representative of the time, labor and materials it takes to complete a job. Higher price/sqft for smaller jobs and a reductively lower price/sqft as the job gets bigger. ie; 1.00/sqft - up to 200 sqsft. .75/sqft - up to 500sqft. .50/sqft - up to 1000sqft.....etc. Find out what it takes to do jobs of various types and look into your costs. How much fuel does your machine consume in an hour? Factor that into the price. What is your travel distance and factor costs for ass time in the vehicle for each person and a service area radius to base your rates on. Compute for larger distances as an additional charge upon the regular area. What are your overhead costs you have to meet each month? Divide that total by the number of days you work to come up with a minimum per day you need to meet those expenses and learn to factor that into your hourly costs overall. Many companies here have stated that they have certain minimums they will need to make before accepting any job. That is another thing to consider but beware, it is also market driven and demographically sensitive. You can price yourself out of business if your area of business can't support your costs if they are too high. Let me know if you have any questions... Rod
  13. 3 points
    We used to do Ice Damn removal as well. Cold work and a bit treacherous in the snow of yards you have not been on before and are trying to find good footing for ladders. God I hate getting snow down the back of my jacket... Rod
  14. 3 points
    Thad, Nonsense. You and many others not mentioned in my post deserve credit. Going back in time, if I can remember, Mark Smith, Ken Fenner, Greg R., Jim B., Diamond Jim Foley, and others used this website and the old Delco board to get the wood restoration business recognised by the general public. It helped my small business and many others. So take a bow!
  15. 3 points
    Beth n Rod

    Show off your summer deck!

    Okay I have a few.....
  16. 3 points

    For those who do staining in Virginia

    Va is actually very fair about the issue. On contracting work when they pull a permit for a job they put your contractors licence number in the system and if it pops as inactive,completely fraudulent, or registered to someone else they make the contractor obtain a valid licence before they will sign off on the work.
  17. 3 points

    Resperator for chemical application

    Contacting OSHA is like kicking a sleeping dog. Just find a chemical respirator. Foaming keeps the chemical compacted and greatly reduces the airborne particulates. Spray it on , wait, it settles. Power wash it off.
  18. 3 points
    Mike Hughes

    Hi there

    The big 4-0 was this past September. I spent the morning of my 40th birthday in the Emergency Room with a kidney stone. That went away after some convincing, and all is well. My boys are 14 and 9 now........which is hard to believe. I stopped pressure washing in 2005 and switched to the HVAC business. I am in sales of residential HVAC and doing very well. For a couple of years I was a technician as well, but I enjoy sales more. Jim, I recognize your photo.......I hope all is well with you.
  19. 3 points
    Doing it for nothing is something I won't do. You are performing on someone else's property and if you aren't charging for it and it is not disclosed in a proposal, bid or estimate, you are liable for any and all damages that result. Hourly rates are for employee's and lawyers. Even plumbers and electricians don't give hourly anymore. They charge by the service. We don't give out an 'hourly' rate either. Due to the varying factors many projects will have, there is no way to really put an hourly rate on it considering there is so much more that go into costs. Rod
  20. 3 points

    Certification Question

    When I started in the is business over 25 years ago, I got certified by the Black Magic school of Grease Exhaust Cleaning. Ever heard of them? No? Really? But I got a real nice looking certificate. Since then multiple schools have popped up and shut down. Do you know I never had one customer ask if I have been certified? Not one FI. No one! But in 2008 Massachusetts adopted the NFPA 96 Fire Codes. Reason was two firefighters lost their lives in a restaurant grease fire. The State also came up with their own codes to try to balance any confusion as to who was responsible for what. They made the hood cleaners responsible for reporting any and all non compliance issues to the FI. Really caused an uproar when the codes started being enforced. Hood cleaners had to be licensed by the state. Not some made up authorities but the state fire marshals office. We had to pass a test and meet some experience qualifications. Some hood cleaners that did not take the code enforcement seriously were fined and shut down along with some restaurants. The test was put together by IKECA. All they had to do was take information from the CLEANING PART of the Codes .But NOOOooooOOOOoo They took some fire suppression questions, some installation questions and put them in too. Stuff we dont do, don't have anything to do with. Stuff we don't know about. Just shows you what IKECA is. A bunch of suits, who don't clean hoods and want everyone to listen to them. They got the state of MA to listen to them. Thankfully there were enough cleaning questions to negate the stupid non cleaning questions. Bet they were paid well. Still no one ever asks about ikeca, they ask if we are licensed by the state. Cleanings done by non licensed cleaners can and does result in fines. Connecticut and Rhode Island and not far behind. So, in my opinion, if you know how to use the equipment, know how to cover the areas cleaned, know how to collect the runoff water, know what chemicals and tools to use. Go get them, just not in Massachusetts. Those schools do not offer anything as far as I am concerned. On the job training is best. Make sure you have enough insurance. No matter why a fire starts, they will sue everyone they can. That means you. There will be jobs you can't do too well, some you will never do again and some that are cake. You will learn by your mistakes. Your strength and determination to get you thru the early years will be the best teacher. One more thing, a hood cleaner around here went to a job, cleaned the outside of the hood and the filters and left the rest because no one saw it anyway. The new restaurant owner is suing him. CYA. Get a copy of the NFPA 96 Fire Codes.
  21. 3 points
    I personally try and price everything based on how long i think the job will take me. If you have a good idea of how many sqft. you can clean an hour that should give you a rough estimate. I'm no expert but here are somethings I take into account when estimating this type of job Drainage Foot Traffic Water Access (fast or slow source) How many times i need to move the rig how many sq ft needs to be cleaned how am I able to schedule the job
  22. 3 points
    Tim , I take care of a lot of furniture . Teak , cedar , pt, redwood, something that begins with a J. All furniture that ends up with people like us has gotten out of control and sticky . Over application of product is the biggest issue. So knowing what you put on and how to care for the finish is the biggest issue with outdoor furniture and when to start over again. Last year I did about 20 pieces of teak at the end of the year as a trial for he next 20 pieces in spring ( I think more). The tables could not be extended and the chairs couldn't be sat on when the temps hit 90. What a freaking mess but they new it . It went beyond there painter, local hardware store , paint store, handy man, advice from the product they put on,. The estate manager went to a dinner at one of my clients and ate / sat on the furniture I have cared for the last ten years. What a great new client I have and estate to work on . All because of something that couldn't be sat on ! Who wood of thunk ? With furniture less is best.... What ever is used don't over apply . Wipe off anything that doesn't sink in in 30 minutes . Don't allow much on the undersides at all . Just enhance the wood. With furniture the first finish and when to do the second finish is the trickiest . You cannot treat outside furniture like inside furniture.
  23. 3 points
    Beth n Rod

    Rock Solid and Restore

    If the coating is not permeable.....RUN. Beth
  24. 3 points
    I like forums better because there is much less politics and more networking and civil discussion by contrast. Rod
  25. 3 points
    Beth n Rod


    Just curious SoCalHoods. When you mentioned waste water regulations, where are you dumping the waste? When we ventured into hoods, the grease was put into the grease bin outside and the wash water down the mop sink drain. No regulations to worry about at all. Are there regulations in California which prevent this type of disposal? Rod
  26. 3 points
    Douglas Hicks

    Mr Fire Safety

    I think that was Lance Winslow. He had the yellow trucks, which he sold to you as part of the franchise. He did get convicted by the FTC (?) for screwing people. He later denied that and claimed he was not found guilty. So Scott of AZ posted a link to the findings of the court. Lance was guilty. He had Carwashguys. he also started (or claimed to have done so) Planewashguys, and a bunch of other wewillscrewyouoverwashguys franchises. He and his girlfriend also tapped the girlfriends' grandmother for her money and left her broke. I fine example of a crooked business person. I talked to MrFireSafty once. He had a great story, bragged about how many franchises were available in Oregon. Oddly enough, he could not even tell me the name of one of his franchises in Oregon, Idaho or Washington. If he would tell me he had someone in Portland, I would ask if it was a particular cleaning company. He would try to deflect my question or give me a name that did not show up on google. He did not know Portland had a list a approved cleaners. By the time we got done talking, I was standing on my desk to avoid the BS puddled on the floor. There was a person here who had a franchise. He seemed to be a person who was honest and ethical. He took lots of crap for his association with Mrfiresafety. I have not seen him for a long time.
  27. 3 points
    I fell down and hit my head really really hard.... doctors said I would never recover mentally... next thing I know im cleaning hoods.
  28. 3 points
    Douglas Hicks

    Filter soak tank chem

    ElBow crease
  29. 3 points
    Douglas Hicks

    Ego vs. Giving Back

    I have done work at a reduced rate for the Salvation Army, a women's shelter, and a Food Bank. Neither group cares who you are or what you do. Their only concern is if you need help. But if I am told that I owe a freebie, if they tell me I can take a tax deduction, if they pull the guilt trip, we are done. The other thing, is I do not help for free advertising or other b/s. I help because I like the org or their goals.
  30. 3 points
    The fishing part is not important. The being together is the important part. Just as important, is his little friends who do not have a good father figure in their lives. You have a chance to make a real difference in some kids life. Don't screw it up.
  31. 3 points
    Someone hook me up with a frubal, thanks.
  32. 3 points
    Frubals Have you ever heard the phrase 'instant karma'? Frubals (sometimes known as 'reputation') are are a very close equivalent. Let's say, for example, you see a post that you really like. You can validate that person by clicking on the little square green icon (if using The Grime Scene skin) or the scale icon (if using TGS Lite skin) that appears in that post. (It's toward the right-hand side, up top). A pop-up message will come up, asking what you thought of the post and will have a blank space where you can write your thoughts on that post. The other member will have it noted in their "User CP" that someone thought that that post was worth "frubals", and if you enclosed a note, that will appear next to the notation. Sending Frubals with a note is also a nice way to say thank you to someone who helped you. In your posts you will notice little squares under your user name. Mouse over them, and it will give you a message based upon your number of frubals. This changes as you get to new levels. There are many terms used on the forums that denote giving someone frubals. Among them are "frubaling a post," "frubalizing someone," and "fruballed." Here are some configuration numbers for you: Register Date Factor: For every 365 number of days, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power. Post Count Factor: For every 100 number of posts, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power. Reputation Point Factor: For every 100 points of reputation, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power. Minimum Post Count: How many posts must a user have before his reputation hits count on others? 10 Minimum Reputation Count: How much reputation must a user have before his reputation hits count on others? 10 Daily Reputation Clicks Limit: How many reputation clicks can a user give over each 24 hour period? Administrators are exempt from this limit. 15 Reputation User Spread: How many different users must you give reputation to before you can hit the same person again? (Administrators are exempt from this limit.) 5
  33. 2 points

    Downstream nozzle has pressure?

    So got the new injector installed and it works great! So I looked at the old injector and somehow the screw in orfice? was missing. I didn’t realize it when I took it apart because I’ve never had one before. Thank you for the help
  34. 2 points
    Marshall Brown


    I hired a professional to do my work.
  35. 2 points
  36. 2 points

    Lessons Learned in 2018

    I learned if a customer starts off asking a bunch of questions and seems like there nit picking that to bid it high because of all the extra BS you'll have to put up with. Had that to happen two different times this past year! Found out that both customers had already had others clean but wasn't satisfied with any one's results on two other pressure washing business? Go figure that ?Always follow your gut feeling on any bids? Got into a little more wood & concrete cleaning to help our 2018 be a success! May try and boost a few post on FB for increase sales ?
  37. 2 points


    I built my own as well and learned some SEO. It's starting to get some organic traffic.
  38. 2 points
    Graco recently released a new line of Fine Finish Low Pressure Tips, which allow you to spray at about half the pressure as the old Fine Finish Tips. I thought this might be useful info for those who've stayed away from using an airless to apply stains & sealers due to excess overspray, as well as for those airless users looking for an improvement. I've used their old fine finish tips for years to apply stain, and I'd agree that even with a small tip and the pressure turned up just enough to create a good spray pattern, that overspray was often an issue. Since it's been steady rain here in Portland, OR for most of the spring so far, I've only done 2 stain jobs, but on both occasions I've had the chance to use the new Fine Finish Low Pressure Tips, and the difference is amazing. I'd definitely look into them if you're using an airless. Here's a link for those interested. Graco Fine Finish Low Pressure Tips
  39. 2 points
    Thanks for the reply. Also just want to say thanks to you and Beth for creating this community and wealth of knowledge. And to all the contributors. Was reading through this post of cold weather hints and point #2 made me realize we're missing the bypass line when running antifreeze. We just use a funnel and pour until we see antifreeze come out of the whip. Now I'll have to make sure to put a gun or a valve on to get it into the bypass. That's one headache I now won't have. I've got limited experience as a contract cleaner so far (5 years, but really only started learning in the last 2), but I am a techy guy so hopefully that's where I can help provide some knowledge. I'll start a new topic in the next little while and see if there is any interest.
  40. 2 points
    ACR is a great find for new or old salts in the PW business. We're fortunate to have Tom, Barbara, and crew local to keep us in business. Been dependent on ACR for now 14 yrs. for nearly all of our chemicals, stains, equipment, and repairs.
  41. 2 points
    Beth n Rod

    Employee Bonus

    These days, it is hard to find people who actually want to show up let alone do anything to earn a bonus. Rod
  42. 2 points

    Cedar shake strip and stain pctures

    Big house. Lots of windows and dormers. It is a shame to put a solid stain on decent lap cedar. I'd charge an extra 20% on labor just to put up with the sacrilege.
  43. 2 points

    Envirospec Still in Business??

    I have been blessed being within an hour's drive of ACR Products. Aside from a few odd chemicals, they have supplied all my needs for the past 13 years. Custom equipment, repairs, advice, Tom, Barbara, and crew have kept me in business.
  44. 2 points
    There is a reason acrylic has cry in the middle of the word !
  45. 2 points

    I'mmmm Back

    Hello everyone, remember me? It's been a while since I.ve been by to say hello. No, I haven't been cheating on you with another website. I thought I finally learned everything there is to know about everything and I didn't need to stop by anymore. Guess I was wrong. ;) I've been very busy in the business, everything is going very well. Missed you guys. Actually a friend from Florida is in the painting business and he called tonight to ask me about roof cleaning. I told him all I knew (which only took a few moments) and advised him to join TGS. Then I remembered that it's been a very long time since I logged in. Thats about it. Business is good and the family is fine. Taking a trip to the Domician Republic tomorrow for I little vacation. Bye for now, Ricky.
  46. 2 points
    No Problems Ryan :) Like I said in my second post, we seldom if ever mask the smell of the roof cleaning chemicals anymore, because roof cleaning with bleach is an accepted thing now, here in Tampa. But back 20 years ago, when I first started cleaning roofs, some people were freaking out, over the smell of "all that bleach". I just wanted to give those roof cleaners who have a need to mask the smell of their chemicals, the places to buy from, and names of what things to buy.
  47. 2 points
    We completely restored this deck. We set all the exposed nail heads and screws, added screws where needed, stripped what was left of the old failed and inferior sealer, cleaned, brightened and brushed the furrs and lightly sanded the extremely weathered wood, replaced a few bad boards, added a new rail cap all the way around, added structural support to the poorly designed hand rails and finally finished with AC! This made for one happy customer! I learned so much about what to do, what not to do and how to fix mistakes on this project it is unreal! I still have another deck and a few hundred feet of shadow box fence before this entire job is complete so I will have more b4 and after shots when it is all done. Thanks to all of you who have helped me along as I have worked this job!
  48. 2 points

    Hotsy 1270SS For sale

    Not only that this is the absoloute worst time of the year to be trying to sell a pressure washer. Unless you are doing KEC or are in florida many operations shut down and are not looking for any equipment at all, and in fairness they are looking for deals. It is my observation over the years that when you buy a pressure washer the second it crosses the curb at the dealership on it's way out it has lost 50% of it's value.
  49. 2 points

    PWNA 2013 Convention

    Dan and Heather Galvin were kind enough to share their HUNDREDS of photos from the PWNA Convention. I have posted some on our site, and I will add more. (It's just taking awhile.) Please check them out: http://www.ecleanmag.com/2013-pwna-c...os-2013-11-07/
  50. 2 points
    Finally got the magazine finished yesterday. Finally ot some sleep. Finally got the laundry folded and put away. Had lunch with my kids at school. Got my dog curled up next to me right now. Best day I've had in at least a week.